1 00:00:00,340 --> 00:00:02,940 consider the nominations of General 2 00:00:02,940 --> 00:00:06,710 when Van Herck to be Commander United 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,060 States Northern Command and Lieutenant 4 00:00:09,060 --> 00:00:12,390 General James Dickerson to be commander 5 00:00:12,390 --> 00:00:14,750 of United States Space Command were 6 00:00:14,750 --> 00:00:17,160 experiencing unique challenges and 7 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,290 threats in our country . Both been 8 00:00:19,290 --> 00:00:22,020 nominated for the position . We're all 9 00:00:22,030 --> 00:00:24,141 I'm not going to go ahead and read to 10 00:00:24,141 --> 00:00:26,197 make on them , because I think we're 11 00:00:26,197 --> 00:00:28,141 often there with them . There's no 12 00:00:28,141 --> 00:00:30,363 opposition that I know of . I speak for 13 00:00:30,363 --> 00:00:32,197 the committee when I say that we 14 00:00:32,197 --> 00:00:34,252 appreciate your willingness to serve 15 00:00:34,252 --> 00:00:36,308 our country and these important rose 16 00:00:36,308 --> 00:00:36,300 and appear before us today . So , 17 00:00:36,300 --> 00:00:38,300 gentlemen , I ask that you provide 18 00:00:38,300 --> 00:00:41,000 inaudible yes or no response . These 19 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,720 air , the required questions . Yeah , I 20 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,776 see your boat down there . So let us 21 00:00:46,776 --> 00:00:49,200 hear your responses . All right . Have 22 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,367 you adhered to the applicable laws and 23 00:00:51,367 --> 00:00:53,256 regulations governing conflict of 24 00:00:53,256 --> 00:00:56,460 interest ? Yes . Yes . Will you ensure 25 00:00:56,460 --> 00:00:58,349 that your staff complies with the 26 00:00:58,349 --> 00:01:00,404 deadlines established for requesting 27 00:01:00,404 --> 00:01:02,571 communications , including questions ? 28 00:01:02,571 --> 00:01:05,340 For the record in hearings ? Yes . Will 29 00:01:05,340 --> 00:01:07,396 you cooperate in providing witnesses 30 00:01:07,396 --> 00:01:09,173 and briefers in response to the 31 00:01:09,173 --> 00:01:12,130 congressional request ? Yes . Well , 32 00:01:12,130 --> 00:01:14,570 those witnesses be protected from 33 00:01:14,570 --> 00:01:16,820 Reprisal for the testimony . Your 34 00:01:16,820 --> 00:01:19,280 breathing ? Yes . Do you agree ? Have 35 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,050 confirmed to appear and testify upon 36 00:01:22,060 --> 00:01:24,280 request of this committee . Yes , you 37 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,990 agree for I just heard one . Yes , yes . 38 00:01:28,070 --> 00:01:31,310 Good D agree and provide documents 39 00:01:31,310 --> 00:01:33,600 including copies of electronic forms of 40 00:01:33,790 --> 00:01:35,901 communication in a timely matter when 41 00:01:35,901 --> 00:01:37,679 requested by a duly constituted 42 00:01:38,010 --> 00:01:40,160 committee or to consult with the 43 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,216 Committee regarding the basis of any 44 00:01:42,216 --> 00:01:44,030 good faith , delay or denial in 45 00:01:44,030 --> 00:01:47,910 providing such documents . Yes . Have 46 00:01:47,910 --> 00:01:50,280 you assumed any duties or undertakings ? 47 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,930 Any actions which would appear to 48 00:01:52,940 --> 00:01:56,010 resume the outcome of confirmation 49 00:01:56,010 --> 00:01:59,890 process ? No , no , I don't 50 00:01:59,890 --> 00:02:01,946 have to tell either of you about the 51 00:02:01,946 --> 00:02:04,590 many challenges nation faces both of 52 00:02:04,590 --> 00:02:07,990 the positions for which we are 53 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,870 considering . Your nominations are at 54 00:02:10,870 --> 00:02:13,037 the forefront of those challenges from 55 00:02:13,037 --> 00:02:15,580 responding to a global pandemic to 56 00:02:15,580 --> 00:02:18,820 ensuring our domestic our dominance in 57 00:02:18,820 --> 00:02:21,440 space . It's important that we have the 58 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,551 right leadership for these items . At 59 00:02:23,551 --> 00:02:25,773 the forefront of these responsibilities 60 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,390 is ensuring that we continue the to 61 00:02:28,390 --> 00:02:31,510 implement the foot and fulfilling the 62 00:02:31,510 --> 00:02:34,660 national defense strategy . That czar , 63 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,060 our document we refer to you quite 64 00:02:37,060 --> 00:02:39,950 often that's our Bible are are , uh , 65 00:02:41,210 --> 00:02:43,740 direction . So it's important that we 66 00:02:43,740 --> 00:02:45,907 keep leadership , that we can take the 67 00:02:45,907 --> 00:02:48,770 rows on rows to help us win great power 68 00:02:48,770 --> 00:02:52,540 competition and in take care 69 00:02:52,550 --> 00:02:55,030 of our people . So we look forward to 70 00:02:55,030 --> 00:02:57,030 hearing for your views on these and 71 00:02:57,030 --> 00:02:59,580 other important issues . Now , Senator 72 00:02:59,580 --> 00:03:01,730 Reid is going to vote , so we'll pick 73 00:03:01,730 --> 00:03:04,800 up there when he gets back . 74 00:03:05,940 --> 00:03:09,790 And , uh and uh , 75 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,760 then , yeah , I 76 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,927 want to come it also , we have some of 77 00:03:15,927 --> 00:03:17,704 the senators that are attending 78 00:03:17,704 --> 00:03:19,927 remotely , which complicates things . I 79 00:03:19,927 --> 00:03:21,982 want to let everyone know how things 80 00:03:21,982 --> 00:03:24,360 are going to run , since it isn't 81 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,249 possible to know exactly when our 82 00:03:26,249 --> 00:03:28,360 colleagues will , who will be joining 83 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,230 us via computer arrival will 84 00:03:32,230 --> 00:03:34,170 not be able to be following our 85 00:03:34,170 --> 00:03:36,850 standard early bird timing rule . 86 00:03:37,220 --> 00:03:39,360 Instead , we will handle the order of 87 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,160 questions by seniority ordinating sided . 88 00:03:42,170 --> 00:03:46,070 Decide until until we have 89 00:03:46,070 --> 00:03:48,550 gone through everyone . Once we reach 90 00:03:48,550 --> 00:03:50,661 the end , If there's anyone we miss , 91 00:03:50,661 --> 00:03:52,494 we'll go back and pick that up . 92 00:03:54,730 --> 00:03:57,470 We will do the standard five minutes 93 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,820 rounds like we always do a NASA 94 00:03:59,820 --> 00:04:03,160 colleagues and on the computers to 95 00:04:03,590 --> 00:04:05,880 please keep an eye on the clock , which 96 00:04:05,890 --> 00:04:08,150 you should see on your screens . 97 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,973 Finally , to allow everyone to be heard , 98 00:04:10,973 --> 00:04:13,251 whether in the room or on the computer , 99 00:04:13,251 --> 00:04:15,473 asking all colleagues to please be sure 100 00:04:15,473 --> 00:04:18,150 to mutual microphone When not speaking , 101 00:04:18,790 --> 00:04:21,380 gentlemen , we will begin with your 102 00:04:21,380 --> 00:04:23,480 opening statement . Since we are 103 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,040 meeting in unusual times , please feel 104 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,280 free to acknowledge any family members 105 00:04:28,280 --> 00:04:30,890 that might be in attendance remotely . 106 00:04:31,740 --> 00:04:35,560 Aziz , you address your statements . 107 00:04:35,850 --> 00:04:37,640 So let's start with 108 00:04:39,350 --> 00:04:42,250 General . Uh uh . 109 00:04:43,180 --> 00:04:46,190 Then her IQ will begin with you and 110 00:04:46,190 --> 00:04:48,440 then which carry out from there . Thank 111 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,340 you . You're recognized . Thank you , 112 00:04:51,340 --> 00:04:53,562 Chairman Inhofe , Ranking member Reed . 113 00:04:53,562 --> 00:04:55,507 I understand he's gone . Thank him 114 00:04:55,507 --> 00:04:57,729 upfront as well distinguished committee 115 00:04:57,729 --> 00:04:59,951 members . It is an incredible privilege 116 00:04:59,951 --> 00:05:01,840 to appear before you today is the 117 00:05:01,840 --> 00:05:03,840 president's nominee to be commander 118 00:05:03,840 --> 00:05:05,784 United States Northern Command and 119 00:05:05,784 --> 00:05:07,729 Commander North American Aerospace 120 00:05:07,729 --> 00:05:09,951 Defense Command . I'd like to thank the 121 00:05:09,951 --> 00:05:12,118 President , the Secretary of Defense , 122 00:05:12,118 --> 00:05:14,118 the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of 123 00:05:14,118 --> 00:05:16,173 Staff , for their confidence and for 124 00:05:16,173 --> 00:05:18,340 nominating me to lead these two unique 125 00:05:18,340 --> 00:05:20,396 but complementary commands . I would 126 00:05:20,396 --> 00:05:22,284 also like to thank Canadian Prime 127 00:05:22,284 --> 00:05:24,507 Minister Trudeau , Canadian Minister of 128 00:05:24,507 --> 00:05:26,810 Defense Se Jin and the Chief of Defence 129 00:05:26,810 --> 00:05:29,032 Staff General Jonathan Vance , who also 130 00:05:29,032 --> 00:05:32,090 concurred with my nomination . It's 131 00:05:32,090 --> 00:05:33,979 deeply humbling in an honor to be 132 00:05:33,979 --> 00:05:36,034 sitting here next to the U S . Space 133 00:05:36,034 --> 00:05:38,201 Command nominee Lieutenant General Jim 134 00:05:38,201 --> 00:05:40,423 Dickinson as well . To begin , I'd like 135 00:05:40,423 --> 00:05:42,312 to introduce my wife , Maryland , 136 00:05:42,312 --> 00:05:44,534 sitting behind me to the committee . We 137 00:05:44,534 --> 00:05:46,590 ask of a lot , a lot of our military 138 00:05:46,590 --> 00:05:48,701 families , and I can tell you without 139 00:05:48,701 --> 00:05:50,701 hesitation that I would not be here 140 00:05:50,701 --> 00:05:52,923 without the love and support of my wife 141 00:05:52,923 --> 00:05:55,090 and my family . Maryland . I have been 142 00:05:55,090 --> 00:05:57,146 married for more than 32 years . She 143 00:05:57,146 --> 00:05:59,146 and is she is an amazing woman , an 144 00:05:59,146 --> 00:06:01,312 inspiration to many , including myself 145 00:06:01,312 --> 00:06:03,646 and the best teammate that I could have . 146 00:06:03,850 --> 00:06:06,017 We have had the privilege of raising a 147 00:06:06,017 --> 00:06:07,850 beautiful daughter , Molly , and 148 00:06:07,850 --> 00:06:10,072 welcoming our son in law , Taylor , who 149 00:06:10,072 --> 00:06:12,183 serves in the United States Navy into 150 00:06:12,183 --> 00:06:14,239 our family . Unfortunately , they're 151 00:06:14,239 --> 00:06:16,406 unable to be here with us today . They 152 00:06:16,406 --> 00:06:18,572 have their hands full with the toddler 153 00:06:18,572 --> 00:06:20,628 Theo and also a second grandchild on 154 00:06:20,628 --> 00:06:22,940 the way do in January . I've been 155 00:06:22,940 --> 00:06:25,107 fortunate to have my incredible family 156 00:06:25,107 --> 00:06:27,190 by my side throughout my military 157 00:06:27,190 --> 00:06:29,910 journey . Today , we face ever growing 158 00:06:29,910 --> 00:06:32,077 threats to the homeland , threats from 159 00:06:32,077 --> 00:06:35,040 actors across all domains , threats 160 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,262 that are very riel and threats that are 161 00:06:37,262 --> 00:06:39,207 here today . I am committed to the 162 00:06:39,207 --> 00:06:41,096 national defense strategy and its 163 00:06:41,096 --> 00:06:43,151 number one priority of defending the 164 00:06:43,151 --> 00:06:45,390 homeland . No mission is more sacred . 165 00:06:46,090 --> 00:06:49,470 We must remain prepared to threats to 166 00:06:49,470 --> 00:06:51,692 meet the threats head on and defend our 167 00:06:51,692 --> 00:06:53,914 homeland from an increasingly assertive 168 00:06:53,914 --> 00:06:56,600 set of peer competitors , rogue nations 169 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,767 and non state actors who are committed 170 00:06:58,970 --> 00:07:01,380 to creating a new world order and 171 00:07:01,390 --> 00:07:03,612 influencing our freedoms and our way of 172 00:07:03,612 --> 00:07:06,770 life . For more than 62 years , nor Ed 173 00:07:06,770 --> 00:07:08,826 has served as the foundation for the 174 00:07:08,826 --> 00:07:10,770 defense of North America . This 175 00:07:10,770 --> 00:07:12,992 incredible bond , coupled with military 176 00:07:12,992 --> 00:07:15,310 capabilities , ensures the form edible 177 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,650 deterrent to potential adversaries . 178 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,480 And it's clear symbol of the 179 00:07:19,490 --> 00:07:21,490 unbreakable bond between the United 180 00:07:21,490 --> 00:07:23,860 States and Canada . I fully understand 181 00:07:23,860 --> 00:07:25,916 the importance of this mission , the 182 00:07:25,916 --> 00:07:28,138 value of the binational partnership and 183 00:07:28,138 --> 00:07:30,082 the incredible responsibility that 184 00:07:30,082 --> 00:07:32,027 comes with wearing the head of the 185 00:07:32,027 --> 00:07:34,193 commander of NORAD . If confirmed , it 186 00:07:34,193 --> 00:07:36,193 would might be my distinct honor to 187 00:07:36,193 --> 00:07:38,416 lead the men and women of NORAD in this 188 00:07:38,416 --> 00:07:40,582 no fail mission . And the work closely 189 00:07:40,582 --> 00:07:42,638 with General Jonathan Vance as NORAD 190 00:07:42,638 --> 00:07:44,638 looks to modernize its capabilities 191 00:07:44,638 --> 00:07:46,749 while we continue to build on what is 192 00:07:46,749 --> 00:07:46,540 already an incredibly strong 193 00:07:46,540 --> 00:07:49,260 partnership . If confirmed , I look 194 00:07:49,260 --> 00:07:51,260 forward to working closely with our 195 00:07:51,260 --> 00:07:53,427 Mexican partners , including Secretary 196 00:07:53,427 --> 00:07:55,482 of National Defense General Sandoval 197 00:07:55,482 --> 00:07:57,593 and Secretary of the Navy Admiral who 198 00:07:57,593 --> 00:07:59,427 Heda , also Commodore King , new 199 00:07:59,427 --> 00:08:01,649 Commander of Royal Bahama Defense Force 200 00:08:01,649 --> 00:08:03,871 focused focusing on our common goals of 201 00:08:03,871 --> 00:08:06,340 security , peace and prosperity . If 202 00:08:06,340 --> 00:08:08,507 confirmed , I commit to this committee 203 00:08:08,507 --> 00:08:10,562 that I will provide my best military 204 00:08:10,562 --> 00:08:12,673 advice and candid views on the issues 205 00:08:12,673 --> 00:08:14,673 and challenges we face . And I will 206 00:08:14,673 --> 00:08:16,784 ensure that nor calm remains postured 207 00:08:16,784 --> 00:08:18,784 to defend the homeland and ready to 208 00:08:18,784 --> 00:08:20,562 provide timely support to civil 209 00:08:20,562 --> 00:08:22,451 authorities in order to eliminate 210 00:08:22,451 --> 00:08:24,618 suffering and ensure the safety of the 211 00:08:24,618 --> 00:08:26,507 American people . Chairman Inhofe 212 00:08:26,507 --> 00:08:28,451 Ranking member Read members of the 213 00:08:28,451 --> 00:08:28,140 committee Thank you again for the 214 00:08:28,140 --> 00:08:30,418 opportunity to appear before you today . 215 00:08:30,418 --> 00:08:32,362 I look forward to your questions . 216 00:08:34,140 --> 00:08:37,970 Thank you . General Van Herck . General 217 00:08:38,130 --> 00:08:38,840 Dickinson , 218 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,807 German and off . Is it okay if we take 219 00:08:44,807 --> 00:08:46,918 our mask off when speaking ? Yes , it 220 00:08:46,918 --> 00:08:49,930 is . Thank you . Chairman and off 221 00:08:49,930 --> 00:08:52,097 ranking member read and members of the 222 00:08:52,097 --> 00:08:53,763 committee . Thank you for the 223 00:08:53,763 --> 00:08:56,041 opportunity to appear before you today . 224 00:08:56,041 --> 00:08:57,763 I am humbled and honored to be 225 00:08:57,763 --> 00:08:59,986 nominated as the commander of U S Space 226 00:08:59,986 --> 00:09:02,208 Command . I am thankful to the Chairman 227 00:09:02,208 --> 00:09:02,170 of the Joint Chiefs of Staff the 228 00:09:02,170 --> 00:09:03,948 Secretary of Defense , into the 229 00:09:03,948 --> 00:09:05,948 President . United States for their 230 00:09:05,948 --> 00:09:08,059 trust and support . I'm honored today 231 00:09:08,059 --> 00:09:09,781 for the opportunity to testify 232 00:09:09,781 --> 00:09:11,948 alongside Lieutenant General Van Herck 233 00:09:12,010 --> 00:09:14,232 on a personal note . I am proud to have 234 00:09:14,232 --> 00:09:16,343 my family here with me today . I am a 235 00:09:16,343 --> 00:09:18,399 blessed man to have such a great and 236 00:09:18,399 --> 00:09:20,566 supporting family . First and foremost 237 00:09:20,566 --> 00:09:22,899 is my wife in my high school sweetheart , 238 00:09:22,899 --> 00:09:24,954 Angie Dickinson . We have known each 239 00:09:24,954 --> 00:09:27,066 other for more than 42 years and have 240 00:09:27,066 --> 00:09:29,010 been married for almost 34 years . 241 00:09:29,010 --> 00:09:30,788 Angie has dedicated her life to 242 00:09:30,788 --> 00:09:32,954 carrying for our four Children , while 243 00:09:32,954 --> 00:09:34,732 at the same time caring for the 244 00:09:34,732 --> 00:09:36,843 countless Army families . We have had 245 00:09:36,843 --> 00:09:39,066 the honor to serve alongside throughout 246 00:09:39,066 --> 00:09:41,121 my career . Seated next to Angie are 247 00:09:41,121 --> 00:09:43,232 four Children Deborah Hank , Bolivian 248 00:09:43,232 --> 00:09:45,232 Joe , our son in law , Matt and our 249 00:09:45,232 --> 00:09:47,288 daughter in law , Sarah , our oldest 250 00:09:47,288 --> 00:09:49,621 Deborah is an elementary school teacher , 251 00:09:49,621 --> 00:09:51,177 mother of three of our five 252 00:09:51,177 --> 00:09:53,066 grandchildren and herself an Army 253 00:09:53,066 --> 00:09:54,954 spouse . Her husband , Major Matt 254 00:09:54,954 --> 00:09:57,010 Weisner , is a U S Army infantry men 255 00:09:57,010 --> 00:09:58,900 and a combat veteran . Our oldest 256 00:09:58,900 --> 00:10:00,789 granddaughter , Reagan , recently 257 00:10:00,789 --> 00:10:02,956 turned nine , just made her fifth move 258 00:10:02,956 --> 00:10:05,011 fifth move in nine years of her life 259 00:10:05,011 --> 00:10:06,678 with her parents , and she is 260 00:10:06,678 --> 00:10:08,870 considered a true army brat Our son 261 00:10:08,870 --> 00:10:10,650 Hank is a newly promoted area 262 00:10:10,650 --> 00:10:12,928 construction superintendent . His wife , 263 00:10:12,928 --> 00:10:14,983 Sarah , is a neonatal intensive care 264 00:10:14,983 --> 00:10:17,206 nurse and the mother of two of our five 265 00:10:17,206 --> 00:10:19,428 grandchildren . Our daughter , Olivia , 266 00:10:19,428 --> 00:10:21,428 is a journalist and most recently a 267 00:10:21,428 --> 00:10:23,483 senior executive news producer . And 268 00:10:23,483 --> 00:10:25,594 finally , Joe is a recent graduate of 269 00:10:25,594 --> 00:10:28,240 the University of Alabama Roll Tide and 270 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,240 is on the cusp of joining our great 271 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,280 Army to pursue his dream of flying 272 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,700 helicopters . Angie and I could not be 273 00:10:34,700 --> 00:10:36,533 more proud of our family as they 274 00:10:36,533 --> 00:10:38,589 represent the resiliency , toughness 275 00:10:38,589 --> 00:10:40,756 and service that make military kids so 276 00:10:40,756 --> 00:10:42,756 successful while they're considered 277 00:10:42,756 --> 00:10:44,990 dependence because of me . The reality 278 00:10:44,990 --> 00:10:47,670 is I am dependent on them . And I would 279 00:10:47,670 --> 00:10:49,781 certainly not be here today if it was 280 00:10:49,781 --> 00:10:51,892 not for their support , sacrifice and 281 00:10:51,892 --> 00:10:53,892 their service to our great nation . 282 00:10:53,892 --> 00:10:56,059 Thank you for allowing me to introduce 283 00:10:56,059 --> 00:10:58,250 them today . As the current deputy 284 00:10:58,250 --> 00:11:00,472 commander of U S Space Command . I know 285 00:11:00,472 --> 00:11:02,528 well the tremendous responsibilities 286 00:11:02,528 --> 00:11:04,528 levied upon this command , and it's 287 00:11:04,528 --> 00:11:06,417 incredible joint warfighters as I 288 00:11:06,417 --> 00:11:08,583 reflect on the responsibilities of the 289 00:11:08,583 --> 00:11:10,417 new position for which I've been 290 00:11:10,417 --> 00:11:12,417 nominated . Frankly , I'm amazed at 291 00:11:12,417 --> 00:11:14,528 where we are today . Just over a year 292 00:11:14,528 --> 00:11:16,250 ago , during General Raymond's 293 00:11:16,250 --> 00:11:18,306 nomination hearing , he testified of 294 00:11:18,306 --> 00:11:20,472 the great alignment in our nation with 295 00:11:20,472 --> 00:11:22,583 acknowledging space as a war fighting 296 00:11:22,583 --> 00:11:24,806 domain , just like land , air , sea and 297 00:11:24,806 --> 00:11:27,040 cyber . Based on that alignment , we as 298 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:28,873 a nation took bold steps towards 299 00:11:28,873 --> 00:11:30,984 protecting and defending our critical 300 00:11:30,984 --> 00:11:33,151 space capabilities by establishing U . 301 00:11:33,151 --> 00:11:34,984 S Space Command and subsequently 302 00:11:34,984 --> 00:11:37,151 standing up the U . S . Space force to 303 00:11:37,151 --> 00:11:39,262 better organize , train and equip our 304 00:11:39,262 --> 00:11:41,560 space warfighters as highlighted the 305 00:11:41,560 --> 00:11:43,782 news defense space strategy . We're now 306 00:11:43,782 --> 00:11:45,580 facing the most significant 307 00:11:45,580 --> 00:11:47,930 transformation in the history of U . S . 308 00:11:47,930 --> 00:11:50,920 National security space programs . The 309 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,060 scope , scale and complexity of the 310 00:11:53,060 --> 00:11:55,310 threats to our space capabilities are 311 00:11:55,310 --> 00:11:57,840 real and concerning we no longer have 312 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,951 the luxury of operating in a peaceful 313 00:11:59,951 --> 00:12:01,896 and benign environment , and we no 314 00:12:01,896 --> 00:12:04,062 longer have the luxury of assuming our 315 00:12:04,062 --> 00:12:06,340 access to and ability to leverage the 316 00:12:06,340 --> 00:12:08,930 space domain is a given . All those 317 00:12:08,930 --> 00:12:11,100 faces , indeed a war fighting domain 318 00:12:11,110 --> 00:12:13,950 are actual goal is to deter a conflict 319 00:12:13,950 --> 00:12:16,620 from extending into space . The best 320 00:12:16,620 --> 00:12:18,620 way I know how to prevent that from 321 00:12:18,620 --> 00:12:20,731 happening is be prepared to fight and 322 00:12:20,731 --> 00:12:24,180 win If deterrence were to fail . Today 323 00:12:24,190 --> 00:12:26,330 we are the best in the world in space 324 00:12:26,340 --> 00:12:28,396 and If confirmed , my job will be to 325 00:12:28,396 --> 00:12:30,590 make sure our advantage continues to 326 00:12:30,590 --> 00:12:33,460 grow well into the future . The source 327 00:12:33,470 --> 00:12:35,470 of our strength that will make this 328 00:12:35,470 --> 00:12:37,650 possible is and always will be , our 329 00:12:37,650 --> 00:12:40,170 service members and civilians there 330 00:12:40,170 --> 00:12:42,392 without a doubt , the best in the world 331 00:12:42,392 --> 00:12:44,614 at what they do . I'm truly humbled and 332 00:12:44,614 --> 00:12:46,781 honored to be considered to lead these 333 00:12:46,781 --> 00:12:49,190 great patriots . I take this obligation 334 00:12:49,190 --> 00:12:51,357 or responsibility very seriously . And 335 00:12:51,357 --> 00:12:53,579 I assure you that if confirmed , I will 336 00:12:53,579 --> 00:12:55,801 continue to uphold their sacred trust . 337 00:12:55,801 --> 00:12:58,650 The up most of my ability . I look 338 00:12:58,650 --> 00:13:00,872 forward to your questions . Thank you . 339 00:13:01,100 --> 00:13:03,044 Oh , thank you very much . General 340 00:13:03,044 --> 00:13:06,080 General Chairman in North has gone to 341 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,940 the floor to vote . I'm gonna present 342 00:13:08,940 --> 00:13:12,070 my statement . And then , uh , if the 343 00:13:12,070 --> 00:13:13,959 center of Holly still the ranking 344 00:13:13,959 --> 00:13:16,014 Republican and he's available , I'll 345 00:13:16,014 --> 00:13:18,237 ask him to ask his questions . And then 346 00:13:18,237 --> 00:13:20,700 we'll come back and all take backs both 347 00:13:20,700 --> 00:13:24,190 sides . But again , let me also thank 348 00:13:24,190 --> 00:13:27,080 you for having the flexibility to 349 00:13:27,090 --> 00:13:29,090 cooperate with us , not only in the 350 00:13:29,090 --> 00:13:31,034 midst of votes , but in midst of a 351 00:13:31,034 --> 00:13:33,350 pandemic . So I appreciate at flexible 352 00:13:33,350 --> 00:13:36,550 spirit and can do attitude . 353 00:13:37,220 --> 00:13:39,460 Let me begin by thanking the families 354 00:13:39,460 --> 00:13:41,571 on nominees . General Van Herck , you 355 00:13:41,571 --> 00:13:43,349 are joined today by your wife , 356 00:13:43,349 --> 00:13:45,182 Maryland . And you are the proud 357 00:13:45,182 --> 00:13:47,016 parents of Mali . Was married to 358 00:13:47,016 --> 00:13:49,293 Lieutenant Taylor Scott , a Navy pilot . 359 00:13:49,293 --> 00:13:51,293 General Dickinson , we welcome your 360 00:13:51,293 --> 00:13:53,516 family here today . Your wife , Angie , 361 00:13:53,516 --> 00:13:55,849 or their Debra and her husband , Nature . 362 00:13:55,849 --> 00:13:57,904 Matt Weisner and Army officer . Your 363 00:13:57,904 --> 00:13:59,960 son Hank and his wife , Sarah . Your 364 00:13:59,960 --> 00:14:01,960 daughter Olivia . And your son Show 365 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,127 Thank you for all your service and the 366 00:14:04,127 --> 00:14:06,016 sacrifices as members of military 367 00:14:06,016 --> 00:14:08,127 families . It's very important to all 368 00:14:08,127 --> 00:14:10,360 of us , gentlemen her , if confirmed , 369 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,360 your mission will be to protect the 370 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,750 homeland , to deter and defeat attacks 371 00:14:14,750 --> 00:14:16,850 on the United States and to support 372 00:14:16,850 --> 00:14:18,860 civil authorities in mitigating the 373 00:14:18,860 --> 00:14:20,582 effects of attacks and natural 374 00:14:20,582 --> 00:14:22,830 disasters . He will also serve as a 375 00:14:22,830 --> 00:14:24,608 commander of the North American 376 00:14:24,608 --> 00:14:26,608 Aerospace Defense Command , NORAD , 377 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,770 which brings unique responsibilities 378 00:14:28,770 --> 00:14:30,659 and partnering opportunities with 379 00:14:30,659 --> 00:14:32,900 Canada to deter and defend against 380 00:14:32,900 --> 00:14:35,220 threats to our nation . As commander of 381 00:14:35,220 --> 00:14:37,442 North Com , you will be responsible for 382 00:14:37,442 --> 00:14:39,664 the operation of our homeland ballistic 383 00:14:39,664 --> 00:14:41,730 missile defense system . And I look 384 00:14:41,730 --> 00:14:43,810 forward to hearing your views on the 385 00:14:43,810 --> 00:14:46,032 department's plan to improve the ground 386 00:14:46,032 --> 00:14:48,088 based missile defense system with an 387 00:14:48,088 --> 00:14:51,350 interim under layer approach while we 388 00:14:51,350 --> 00:14:53,461 work towards developing and deploying 389 00:14:53,461 --> 00:14:55,590 the next generation . In aceptar , I 390 00:14:55,590 --> 00:14:57,540 would also like your assessment of 391 00:14:57,540 --> 00:14:59,780 where we stand with tracking and 392 00:14:59,780 --> 00:15:01,980 discrimination sensors both ground and 393 00:15:01,980 --> 00:15:04,202 space based , as well as the importance 394 00:15:04,202 --> 00:15:05,924 of developing defenses against 395 00:15:05,924 --> 00:15:08,660 complicated hypersonic threats . As you 396 00:15:08,660 --> 00:15:10,882 know , North Com is leading the Defense 397 00:15:10,882 --> 00:15:12,771 Department's contributions to the 398 00:15:12,771 --> 00:15:15,050 federal response to the Corona virus 399 00:15:15,050 --> 00:15:18,180 pandemic . More than 3 1000 military 400 00:15:18,180 --> 00:15:20,560 personnel are operating support of Cove 401 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,420 in 19 operations in communities across 402 00:15:23,420 --> 00:15:25,870 the nation , while at the same time 403 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,270 more than 25,000 members of military 404 00:15:28,270 --> 00:15:30,350 have been diagnosed with this virus 405 00:15:30,350 --> 00:15:32,930 since mid March . If confirmed , you 406 00:15:32,930 --> 00:15:34,874 will take command . As this crisis 407 00:15:34,874 --> 00:15:37,440 continues and as other needs from 408 00:15:37,450 --> 00:15:40,000 agencies may arise , particularly as 409 00:15:40,010 --> 00:15:42,660 we're now in the hurricanes , you will 410 00:15:42,660 --> 00:15:45,200 need to balance requests for support 411 00:15:45,210 --> 00:15:47,090 from civil authorities with the 412 00:15:47,090 --> 00:15:48,979 readiness and availability of our 413 00:15:48,979 --> 00:15:51,600 forces . Lastly , I remain concerned 414 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,433 with the military utility of the 415 00:15:53,433 --> 00:15:55,322 ongoing deployment of active duty 416 00:15:55,322 --> 00:15:57,530 forces to our southern border and the 417 00:15:57,530 --> 00:16:00,010 impacts of diverting defense funds to 418 00:16:00,010 --> 00:16:03,230 build a wall when we should be focusing 419 00:16:03,230 --> 00:16:05,119 on the challenges to our national 420 00:16:05,119 --> 00:16:07,341 security posed by near pier adversaries 421 00:16:07,341 --> 00:16:09,970 like Russia and China . As directed by 422 00:16:09,970 --> 00:16:12,192 the National Defense Strategy , we have 423 00:16:12,192 --> 00:16:14,414 needlessly committing billions of D o D 424 00:16:14,414 --> 00:16:16,840 dollars in support of wall that has no 425 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,060 connection to a military threat and 426 00:16:19,060 --> 00:16:21,470 does not support military effectiveness . 427 00:16:21,940 --> 00:16:24,162 And now our military personnel continue 428 00:16:24,162 --> 00:16:27,310 to remain on the border while DHS is 429 00:16:27,310 --> 00:16:29,750 choosing deploy its personnel , some of 430 00:16:29,750 --> 00:16:31,900 whom dressed in unmarked camouflage , 431 00:16:32,210 --> 00:16:34,870 toe our own cities . I also continue to 432 00:16:34,870 --> 00:16:37,092 be concerned about the potential use of 433 00:16:37,092 --> 00:16:38,981 military forces in areas of civil 434 00:16:38,981 --> 00:16:41,092 unrest in this country . As North Com 435 00:16:41,092 --> 00:16:43,314 Commander , you would not direct this , 436 00:16:43,314 --> 00:16:45,370 but you would be responsible for the 437 00:16:45,370 --> 00:16:47,481 forces that are deployed . So I would 438 00:16:47,481 --> 00:16:49,648 expect you to keep utmost in your mind 439 00:16:49,648 --> 00:16:53,400 the proper role and focus of active 440 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,180 duty forces in response to such events 441 00:16:56,190 --> 00:16:58,850 in our country . General Dickerson , 442 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,560 you are well qualified to serve as the 443 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,782 commander of U S Space Command . Having 444 00:17:03,782 --> 00:17:06,004 recently served as the commander of the 445 00:17:06,004 --> 00:17:08,282 Army Space and Missile Defense Command , 446 00:17:08,460 --> 00:17:10,127 the U . S . Space Command was 447 00:17:10,127 --> 00:17:12,740 inactivated in 2002 and its 448 00:17:12,740 --> 00:17:15,200 responsibilities and forces were merged 449 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,720 into U S Strategic Command . Then , 450 00:17:17,730 --> 00:17:20,600 after nearly 17 years , U . S Space 451 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,900 Command was reestablished last orders . 452 00:17:23,340 --> 00:17:26,270 Since its original creation in 1985 453 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,447 there have been nine commanders of U . 454 00:17:28,447 --> 00:17:30,502 S . Space Command , all from the Air 455 00:17:30,502 --> 00:17:32,724 Force . It will be the first commanding 456 00:17:32,724 --> 00:17:34,947 officer from the service other than the 457 00:17:34,947 --> 00:17:37,113 Air Force , although there are some of 458 00:17:37,113 --> 00:17:39,224 us who referred to it as the Army Air 459 00:17:39,224 --> 00:17:41,990 Corps . But we're very old , uh , the 460 00:17:41,990 --> 00:17:44,090 little Children . I think this is 461 00:17:44,090 --> 00:17:46,270 important to point out because our 462 00:17:46,270 --> 00:17:48,600 combatant commands are joined commands . 463 00:17:48,870 --> 00:17:50,537 It is vital that the commands 464 00:17:50,537 --> 00:17:52,759 incorporate this perspective of all the 465 00:17:52,759 --> 00:17:55,070 services . The Army's space operations 466 00:17:55,070 --> 00:17:57,810 officers , known as the FAA forties , 467 00:17:57,970 --> 00:18:00,230 are highly prized and respected across 468 00:18:00,230 --> 00:18:02,320 the space community . They embed 469 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,264 themselves within the Army's brown 470 00:18:04,264 --> 00:18:06,376 comment forces and are found often at 471 00:18:06,376 --> 00:18:08,542 the tip of the spear , using the power 472 00:18:08,542 --> 00:18:10,690 of space and information to enable a 473 00:18:10,690 --> 00:18:13,100 more effective war fighting force . I 474 00:18:13,100 --> 00:18:15,044 hope that your boots on the ground 475 00:18:15,044 --> 00:18:16,989 perspective and experience will be 476 00:18:16,989 --> 00:18:18,711 imparted to this command . I'm 477 00:18:18,711 --> 00:18:20,711 interested in hearing your views on 478 00:18:20,711 --> 00:18:22,830 several topics . First , I would like 479 00:18:22,830 --> 00:18:24,774 to know how you will shape a joint 480 00:18:24,774 --> 00:18:27,010 warfighting operations plan which is at 481 00:18:27,010 --> 00:18:29,080 the core of all combatant command . 482 00:18:29,820 --> 00:18:32,430 Second , during conflict in space will 483 00:18:32,430 --> 00:18:34,597 you have direct tasking authority over 484 00:18:34,597 --> 00:18:36,597 the space assets ? The intelligence 485 00:18:36,597 --> 00:18:39,210 community control ? This issue is 486 00:18:39,210 --> 00:18:41,330 critical because there must be no 487 00:18:41,330 --> 00:18:43,330 ambiguity in the chain of command . 488 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:45,920 Third , what steps will you take to 489 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,570 ensure our middle warning mission is up 490 00:18:48,570 --> 00:18:50,850 to date to assess an attack on our 491 00:18:50,850 --> 00:18:52,739 homeland , especially a new could 492 00:18:52,739 --> 00:18:55,270 attack ? As commander of space com , 493 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,950 you will own a vitally important system 494 00:18:57,950 --> 00:19:00,100 of sensors that both North com and 495 00:19:00,100 --> 00:19:02,960 Stratcom rely upon to inform the 496 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,016 president of whether our homeland is 497 00:19:05,016 --> 00:19:07,070 under attack . This mission is more 498 00:19:07,070 --> 00:19:09,280 vital today than it was 60 years ago 499 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,656 with the proliferation of long range 500 00:19:11,656 --> 00:19:13,822 missiles , some of which do not follow 501 00:19:13,822 --> 00:19:16,030 a ballistic trajectory by countries 502 00:19:16,030 --> 00:19:18,600 such as North Korea , China , Iran and , 503 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,350 of course , Russia . Space Command is a 504 00:19:21,350 --> 00:19:23,183 sense of command and the missile 505 00:19:23,183 --> 00:19:25,072 warning mission . Maybe it's most 506 00:19:25,072 --> 00:19:27,480 important ones again . I think both of 507 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,702 you for your continued service and look 508 00:19:29,702 --> 00:19:31,924 forward to your testimony and thank you 509 00:19:31,924 --> 00:19:34,510 all . Both . Now , at this point in 510 00:19:34,510 --> 00:19:36,690 terms of getting instructions , 511 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,980 reason with it . Uh , I have been 512 00:19:42,980 --> 00:19:45,091 instructed that we're going to send a 513 00:19:45,091 --> 00:19:47,202 Fisher , the ranking Republican who's 514 00:19:47,202 --> 00:19:49,260 on Web , Senator Fisher please . 515 00:19:51,630 --> 00:19:53,852 Thank you . Senator Reid , can you hear 516 00:19:53,852 --> 00:19:56,220 me ? OK , uh , loud and clear . Okay . 517 00:19:56,230 --> 00:19:59,000 Great . Thank you so much . And thank 518 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,730 you for holding this hearing today on 519 00:20:01,730 --> 00:20:03,286 these very , very important 520 00:20:03,286 --> 00:20:06,080 confirmations . I want to begin by 521 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,670 asking Job Inherit , your predecessor 522 00:20:09,670 --> 00:20:12,330 general of Shaughnessy advocated for 523 00:20:12,340 --> 00:20:14,760 separating the scheduled for the next 524 00:20:14,770 --> 00:20:18,130 generation interceptor . In testimony 525 00:20:18,130 --> 00:20:20,297 before this committee in February , he 526 00:20:20,297 --> 00:20:22,970 stated quote we cannot wait 10 years to 527 00:20:22,970 --> 00:20:25,081 get the next year and the interceptor 528 00:20:25,081 --> 00:20:27,192 fielded . You're trying to bring that 529 00:20:27,192 --> 00:20:30,150 left quote first . I'd ask you agree 530 00:20:30,150 --> 00:20:31,960 with that view ? You think the 531 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,620 capability needs to be deployed before 532 00:20:34,620 --> 00:20:35,550 2030 ? 533 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,890 Senator , I do agree that we need to 534 00:20:40,890 --> 00:20:43,010 feel the next generation capability 535 00:20:43,360 --> 00:20:46,460 quicker and as soon as possible . And 536 00:20:46,460 --> 00:20:48,460 how concerned are you that with the 537 00:20:48,460 --> 00:20:51,920 contract still not being awarded , 538 00:20:52,190 --> 00:20:54,900 our ability to accomplish this schedule 539 00:20:54,900 --> 00:20:58,240 is diminishing . Senator , 540 00:20:58,620 --> 00:21:00,731 I remain concerned , Justus . General 541 00:21:00,731 --> 00:21:03,130 O'Shaughnessy did last week . I 542 00:21:03,130 --> 00:21:05,460 discussed this with John Hill from the 543 00:21:05,460 --> 00:21:08,280 Missile Defense Agency . Uh , he's 544 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,140 looking forward next month to receiving 545 00:21:11,180 --> 00:21:13,530 the request for proposals that come 546 00:21:13,530 --> 00:21:16,940 back . I understand that North comes 547 00:21:16,940 --> 00:21:19,490 Number one requirement was timing and 548 00:21:19,490 --> 00:21:21,790 sequencing of the next generation 549 00:21:21,790 --> 00:21:24,210 interceptor eso . I'm optimistic . 550 00:21:24,220 --> 00:21:26,560 Based on my discussions with John Hill 551 00:21:26,790 --> 00:21:29,660 that will potentially see the next 552 00:21:29,660 --> 00:21:31,660 generation interceptor move further 553 00:21:31,660 --> 00:21:33,771 left and not have the significant gap 554 00:21:33,771 --> 00:21:36,900 that you're referring to . I know that 555 00:21:36,910 --> 00:21:39,550 that there are proposals to develop in 556 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,550 the interim capability that would be 557 00:21:42,550 --> 00:21:44,990 deployed prior to the N g . I being 558 00:21:44,990 --> 00:21:47,770 fielded . A separate plans supplement 559 00:21:47,780 --> 00:21:50,670 our GMD system with an under layer 560 00:21:50,970 --> 00:21:53,820 center read reference that But these 561 00:21:53,820 --> 00:21:56,500 options also face their own schedule 562 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,260 and budgetary challenges . What is your 563 00:22:00,260 --> 00:22:02,830 assessment of the trade off of these 564 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,020 options and the need for some 565 00:22:05,020 --> 00:22:07,430 additional capability and prior to N g 566 00:22:07,430 --> 00:22:11,280 uys appointment ? Senator , my 567 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,760 assessment is we do need to look at the 568 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,650 current system service Life extension 569 00:22:17,650 --> 00:22:19,761 again . In my conversations with John 570 00:22:19,761 --> 00:22:21,761 Hill last week from Missile Defense 571 00:22:21,761 --> 00:22:23,810 Agency , he gave me some great news 572 00:22:23,810 --> 00:22:26,500 that the Service Life Extension , which 573 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,090 Congress funded thank you for that is 574 00:22:29,090 --> 00:22:31,146 not only going to be an extension to 575 00:22:31,146 --> 00:22:32,868 the program but is gonna bring 576 00:22:32,868 --> 00:22:35,760 additional capabilities and also , uh , 577 00:22:35,970 --> 00:22:37,890 redundancy to the system . So I'm 578 00:22:37,890 --> 00:22:40,390 encouraged by that it would prevent any 579 00:22:40,390 --> 00:22:42,550 gap with regards to the under layer 580 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,504 that you're talking about . I also 581 00:22:44,504 --> 00:22:46,727 talked to John about that , and there's 582 00:22:46,727 --> 00:22:49,100 a test upcoming The winner times 583 00:22:49,100 --> 00:22:51,267 that'll take a look at some additional 584 00:22:51,267 --> 00:22:53,360 capabilities a Navy capability and 585 00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:55,193 potentially an Army capability , 586 00:22:55,193 --> 00:22:57,249 specifically the SM three in the fad 587 00:22:57,330 --> 00:22:59,497 that would give us an additional under 588 00:22:59,497 --> 00:23:02,400 layer capability . That system is TBD . 589 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,456 We need to see that test first . I'm 590 00:23:04,456 --> 00:23:06,511 encouraged and will continue to work 591 00:23:06,511 --> 00:23:08,880 with the committee , the Missile 592 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,936 Defense Agency and the department to 593 00:23:10,936 --> 00:23:14,530 minimize any gap , Right ? I think we 594 00:23:14,530 --> 00:23:17,080 all need to remember that some of those 595 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,247 systems that you mentioned or regional 596 00:23:19,790 --> 00:23:22,590 and when we look at the threats that 597 00:23:22,590 --> 00:23:25,140 we're facing within the next 10 years , 598 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,776 I think we need to be better there . 599 00:23:29,620 --> 00:23:33,060 General , I also understand that , But 600 00:23:33,060 --> 00:23:35,400 you could say here is limited in the 601 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,430 unclassified environment we're in . But 602 00:23:38,430 --> 00:23:41,250 can you briefly describe your level of 603 00:23:41,250 --> 00:23:44,040 concern about cruise missile threats to 604 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,310 the homeland and our ability to defend 605 00:23:47,310 --> 00:23:51,290 against Senator thank you ? Yes , it 606 00:23:51,290 --> 00:23:54,140 is concerning . It would be a top 607 00:23:54,140 --> 00:23:56,240 priority if confirmed for me . I 608 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,296 understand right now that there's an 609 00:23:58,296 --> 00:24:01,100 ongoing analysis of alternatives to 610 00:24:01,100 --> 00:24:03,044 take a look at that cruise missile 611 00:24:03,044 --> 00:24:05,156 threat . From a NORAD perspective , I 612 00:24:05,156 --> 00:24:07,211 look forward to working closely with 613 00:24:07,211 --> 00:24:09,267 our Canadian partners looking to see 614 00:24:09,267 --> 00:24:11,540 that analysis of alternatives to get 615 00:24:11,540 --> 00:24:13,910 after the cruise missile threat . If 616 00:24:13,910 --> 00:24:16,077 confirmed , domain awareness will be a 617 00:24:16,077 --> 00:24:18,188 top priority . But we have to be able 618 00:24:18,188 --> 00:24:21,500 to detect those threats . And so if you 619 00:24:21,500 --> 00:24:23,722 can't detect them , you certainly can't 620 00:24:23,722 --> 00:24:25,889 defeat him , and you can't determine . 621 00:24:25,889 --> 00:24:28,111 So I would place that at the top of the 622 00:24:28,111 --> 00:24:30,389 priority list , man . Okay . Thank you , 623 00:24:30,389 --> 00:24:32,444 sir . In General Dickinson , can you 624 00:24:32,444 --> 00:24:34,556 talk about this steps Space Command ? 625 00:24:34,556 --> 00:24:38,100 It's taking too integrate with other 626 00:24:38,100 --> 00:24:40,330 geographic combatant commands and the 627 00:24:40,330 --> 00:24:42,860 importance with which you view this 628 00:24:42,870 --> 00:24:45,230 effort . Given the lessons learnt from 629 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,520 the previous it aeration of space 630 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,760 Command that was de established in 20 631 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,940 Senator , I look at that integration 632 00:24:55,950 --> 00:24:58,280 between U S Space Command and the other 633 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,650 10 combatant commands as one of our 634 00:25:00,650 --> 00:25:02,710 most critical areas that we need to 635 00:25:02,710 --> 00:25:06,060 focus on our ability to integrate space 636 00:25:06,060 --> 00:25:08,460 capabilities throughout the world 637 00:25:08,460 --> 00:25:10,460 Throughout the geographic command , 638 00:25:10,460 --> 00:25:12,627 combatant commands is essential to our 639 00:25:12,627 --> 00:25:14,238 globally integrated effort , 640 00:25:14,238 --> 00:25:16,182 warfighting capability . And we're 641 00:25:16,182 --> 00:25:18,182 taking steps right now to make sure 642 00:25:18,182 --> 00:25:20,238 that we have that capability we have 643 00:25:20,238 --> 00:25:22,071 designed in the new US space Com 644 00:25:22,071 --> 00:25:24,182 headquarters thes integrated planning 645 00:25:24,182 --> 00:25:26,238 elements that were already embedding 646 00:25:26,238 --> 00:25:28,349 within they combatant commands . Most 647 00:25:28,349 --> 00:25:30,540 notably , our 1st 1 we had was a us 648 00:25:30,540 --> 00:25:32,707 stratcom , and we're following up with 649 00:25:32,707 --> 00:25:34,870 in dope a calm eucom centcom and then 650 00:25:34,870 --> 00:25:36,926 the other combatant commanders . But 651 00:25:36,926 --> 00:25:38,926 our ability to integrate into those 652 00:25:38,926 --> 00:25:41,310 combatant man staffs is critical to 653 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,376 make sure that we're providing those 654 00:25:43,376 --> 00:25:45,487 space capabilities that are needed by 655 00:25:45,487 --> 00:25:47,709 the joint warfighter . Right ? And have 656 00:25:47,709 --> 00:25:49,931 you have you only stood up a portion of 657 00:25:49,931 --> 00:25:51,987 those teams at this point ? We Yes , 658 00:25:51,987 --> 00:25:54,098 Senator , we've stood up a portion of 659 00:25:54,098 --> 00:25:56,153 those while those teams have several 660 00:25:56,153 --> 00:25:58,376 people , as you can imagine on him , we 661 00:25:58,376 --> 00:26:00,542 do have two or three people in each of 662 00:26:00,542 --> 00:26:02,542 those locations . So we are growing 663 00:26:02,542 --> 00:26:04,709 that capability as we speak . And then 664 00:26:04,709 --> 00:26:06,876 we have the ability to reach back . So 665 00:26:06,876 --> 00:26:08,987 those that those individuals are able 666 00:26:08,987 --> 00:26:08,660 to reach back into space com 667 00:26:08,660 --> 00:26:11,000 headquarters and be able to get the 668 00:26:11,010 --> 00:26:13,440 support that they may require . Thank 669 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,718 you so much . Thank you . Send to read . 670 00:26:15,718 --> 00:26:17,884 Thank you very much , Senator Fisher . 671 00:26:17,884 --> 00:26:19,551 And it's now it's my turn for 672 00:26:19,551 --> 00:26:22,200 questioning . And so , uh , let me 673 00:26:22,210 --> 00:26:25,200 begin with General Verne hurt from your 674 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,422 experience on the joint staff . Can you 675 00:26:27,422 --> 00:26:29,860 describe what are the key factors 676 00:26:29,860 --> 00:26:32,027 you're going to be looking at ? As you 677 00:26:32,110 --> 00:26:34,790 try to anticipate the response to the 678 00:26:34,790 --> 00:26:37,560 Cove in 19 at North Com will be making 679 00:26:37,570 --> 00:26:39,950 just not just now . We're going forward . 680 00:26:40,140 --> 00:26:41,973 And then you could add into that 681 00:26:41,973 --> 00:26:44,780 hurricanes you get at into a hole host 682 00:26:44,780 --> 00:26:48,040 of disruptive situations . And if you 683 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,440 give us kind of a sense of whom were 684 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,073 perspective , that would help be 685 00:26:54,073 --> 00:26:57,390 helpful . Thank you , Senator , with 686 00:26:57,390 --> 00:27:00,310 regards to anticipation 687 00:27:01,210 --> 00:27:03,720 on a routine basis . From my position 688 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,942 is the director of the Joint Staff . We 689 00:27:05,942 --> 00:27:08,164 monitor the trends and the requirements 690 00:27:08,164 --> 00:27:10,387 across the state of the States , and we 691 00:27:10,387 --> 00:27:12,442 see that today you're certainly seen 692 00:27:12,442 --> 00:27:14,720 trends . Texas , Florida , Mississippi , 693 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,460 California , Arizona , etcetera . To 694 00:27:17,460 --> 00:27:19,420 anticipate the potential need for 695 00:27:19,420 --> 00:27:22,260 resource is from D . O . D . With 696 00:27:22,260 --> 00:27:24,870 regards to going forward and looking in 697 00:27:24,870 --> 00:27:26,790 a hurricane season manner . I 698 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,740 encouraged it to tell you that we 699 00:27:29,740 --> 00:27:31,851 anticipated that from the Joint staff 700 00:27:31,851 --> 00:27:34,020 and provided a plan ord to United 701 00:27:34,020 --> 00:27:36,710 States Northern Command to take a look 702 00:27:36,710 --> 00:27:39,530 at how they would do defense support of 703 00:27:39,530 --> 00:27:41,752 civil authorities in this environment . 704 00:27:41,870 --> 00:27:43,926 And they came back with the planning 705 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,160 estimate commanders estimate that gives 706 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,382 how they would do commanding control of 707 00:27:49,382 --> 00:27:51,549 a hurricane in a cove it environment . 708 00:27:51,570 --> 00:27:53,970 And so we have a level to a base plan 709 00:27:53,980 --> 00:27:56,430 that was provided to North com that is 710 00:27:56,430 --> 00:27:58,430 on the shelf and ready to go in the 711 00:27:58,430 --> 00:28:01,470 case of a hurricane or another defense 712 00:28:01,470 --> 00:28:03,980 support to civil authorities . If 713 00:28:03,980 --> 00:28:06,147 confirmed , I look forward to get into 714 00:28:06,147 --> 00:28:08,147 North com and hopefully not putting 715 00:28:08,147 --> 00:28:10,147 that into place , but continuing to 716 00:28:10,147 --> 00:28:12,740 anticipate the future . Thank you . I 717 00:28:12,740 --> 00:28:16,300 mean , shift Teoh , your colleague 718 00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:18,477 General Dickinson and then back to you 719 00:28:18,477 --> 00:28:20,532 if time allows , generally occurs in 720 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,170 one of the perennial issues is 721 00:28:23,180 --> 00:28:25,140 authority over the intelligence 722 00:28:25,140 --> 00:28:28,770 community and space assets . Uh , could 723 00:28:28,770 --> 00:28:32,710 you give us , ah , on idea whether 724 00:28:32,710 --> 00:28:35,100 you will have tasking authority over 725 00:28:35,110 --> 00:28:37,390 these assets the particular time of 726 00:28:37,390 --> 00:28:38,612 conflict and crisis ? 727 00:28:41,860 --> 00:28:44,010 So , Senator , I would start off by 728 00:28:44,020 --> 00:28:46,200 categorizing our relationship , for 729 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,756 example , with the National 730 00:28:47,756 --> 00:28:50,050 Reconnaissance Office that I've been 731 00:28:50,050 --> 00:28:52,410 able to observe since I took this job 732 00:28:52,410 --> 00:28:54,743 is the deputy commander is space common ? 733 00:28:54,743 --> 00:28:56,910 I would characterize that senator as a 734 00:28:56,910 --> 00:28:58,910 best it's ever been in terms of our 735 00:28:58,910 --> 00:29:01,360 ability to work with the sorrow way 736 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,527 have them embedded in our operations . 737 00:29:03,527 --> 00:29:05,840 centers out in Colorado Springs . We we 738 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,007 operate with them every day . We train 739 00:29:08,007 --> 00:29:10,118 with them , we exercise with them and 740 00:29:10,118 --> 00:29:12,173 we're building our operational plans 741 00:29:12,173 --> 00:29:14,396 together to ensure that we're able Teoh 742 00:29:14,396 --> 00:29:16,173 do the missions that we need to 743 00:29:16,173 --> 00:29:18,007 Together , we've had some recent 744 00:29:18,007 --> 00:29:20,173 activity that's brought us even closer 745 00:29:20,173 --> 00:29:22,396 in terms of being able to work together 746 00:29:22,590 --> 00:29:24,810 in terms specifically with regards to 747 00:29:24,810 --> 00:29:27,032 your question about tasking authority . 748 00:29:27,032 --> 00:29:29,610 We do have a Siris of exercises that 749 00:29:29,610 --> 00:29:31,666 we're working through right now that 750 00:29:31,666 --> 00:29:33,820 will help us get after what I just 751 00:29:33,820 --> 00:29:36,000 described in terms of being able Teoh 752 00:29:36,010 --> 00:29:38,860 work with them Teoh to provide that 753 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,480 warfighting focus that they need to 754 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,330 operate . Thank you , General again 755 00:29:44,330 --> 00:29:46,610 returning back to General Burn . Uh , 756 00:29:46,900 --> 00:29:48,844 what's your assessment of the next 757 00:29:48,844 --> 00:29:51,850 generator ? Generation Interceptor ? 758 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,480 Uh , are we assuming too much risk in 759 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,591 the situation ? We are right now with 760 00:29:57,591 --> 00:30:00,760 the the interceptor , 761 00:30:02,570 --> 00:30:04,737 Senator . My understanding is that the 762 00:30:04,737 --> 00:30:06,903 United States Northern Command General 763 00:30:06,903 --> 00:30:08,903 Shaughnessy worked closely with the 764 00:30:08,903 --> 00:30:10,626 Missile Defense Agency and the 765 00:30:10,626 --> 00:30:10,610 department in the development of the 766 00:30:10,610 --> 00:30:12,666 requirements for the next generation 767 00:30:12,666 --> 00:30:15,590 interceptor . Those requirements are my 768 00:30:15,590 --> 00:30:18,070 understanding is more than capable of 769 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,247 accomplishing the mission that we need 770 00:30:20,247 --> 00:30:22,247 in the future . If confirmed , I'll 771 00:30:22,247 --> 00:30:24,413 continue to work that closely with the 772 00:30:24,413 --> 00:30:26,191 intelligence community with the 773 00:30:26,191 --> 00:30:27,913 department . Ensure there's no 774 00:30:27,913 --> 00:30:29,580 capability lapse for the next 775 00:30:29,580 --> 00:30:31,691 generation interceptors . Thank you . 776 00:30:31,691 --> 00:30:34,550 One of the issues is not just the 777 00:30:34,860 --> 00:30:36,916 platform we have , but the threat we 778 00:30:36,916 --> 00:30:39,730 face . And I think we're all much , 779 00:30:39,730 --> 00:30:41,619 much more sensitive now . They're 780 00:30:41,619 --> 00:30:44,960 hypersonic vehicles , Teoh non 781 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,550 ballistic missiles that could be 782 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,570 freaking into our area of operation . 783 00:30:50,940 --> 00:30:54,140 That must certainly heighten the kind 784 00:30:54,150 --> 00:30:58,100 of , uh , consequences and potential 785 00:30:58,100 --> 00:31:01,800 dangers . Is that accurate ? Senator ? 786 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,856 I share your concern as well , and I 787 00:31:03,856 --> 00:31:05,967 would say that is accurate , specific 788 00:31:05,967 --> 00:31:07,911 toe hyper sonics . But they create 789 00:31:07,911 --> 00:31:10,600 unique challenges going forward again . 790 00:31:10,610 --> 00:31:12,740 Talking with John Hill . I'm very 791 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,520 delighted to see they're working on 792 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,742 hyper Sonics going forward . It creates 793 00:31:17,742 --> 00:31:19,798 unique challenges for the the threat 794 00:31:19,798 --> 00:31:21,470 warning and attack assessment 795 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,870 capability , sir . Well , I was going 796 00:31:23,870 --> 00:31:26,037 to ask the question to General Diggers 797 00:31:26,037 --> 00:31:28,259 and why it's so important for him being 798 00:31:28,259 --> 00:31:30,820 an Army officer to have this job . But 799 00:31:30,820 --> 00:31:33,190 since that's obvious , I will refrain 800 00:31:33,190 --> 00:31:35,390 from asking the question , and I will 801 00:31:35,390 --> 00:31:36,890 recognize centered around 802 00:31:40,490 --> 00:31:42,712 the ranking member once again shows his 803 00:31:42,712 --> 00:31:46,410 wisdom . Thank you . General Dickinson 804 00:31:46,410 --> 00:31:48,577 and General Van Herck . First of all , 805 00:31:48,577 --> 00:31:50,799 thank you and your families for decades 806 00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:53,600 of service to our nation . Last week , 807 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,510 when we spoke in separate conversations , 808 00:31:56,510 --> 00:31:58,510 both of you mentioned the topics of 809 00:31:58,510 --> 00:32:01,130 space . Com Cyber com Integration and 810 00:32:01,130 --> 00:32:04,750 space com North com INTEGRATION What if 811 00:32:04,750 --> 00:32:06,694 you could take this opportunity to 812 00:32:06,694 --> 00:32:08,917 briefly discuss why these relationships 813 00:32:08,917 --> 00:32:12,770 are so important ? And I I just if you 814 00:32:12,770 --> 00:32:15,470 could in whichever order you would like , 815 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,020 I think it's important toe talk about 816 00:32:18,030 --> 00:32:20,260 the interactions between those three . 817 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,970 Senator , thank you . You're absolutely 818 00:32:25,970 --> 00:32:27,859 correct . Those relationships are 819 00:32:27,859 --> 00:32:29,940 vitally important from a North com 820 00:32:29,940 --> 00:32:33,110 perspective reliant for 821 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,810 indications of attack assessment with 822 00:32:37,810 --> 00:32:40,830 space . Com Aziz Well , as supporting 823 00:32:40,830 --> 00:32:43,600 from a cyber perspective , defensive 824 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,822 capabilities . I talked to your own aka 825 00:32:45,822 --> 00:32:49,740 Sony as well , so really look forward 826 00:32:49,740 --> 00:32:51,851 to partnering with both journal Knock 827 00:32:51,851 --> 00:32:53,740 Sony and , if confirmed , General 828 00:32:53,740 --> 00:32:55,684 Dickinson to continue on a path to 829 00:32:55,684 --> 00:32:57,851 ensure success . I understand that the 830 00:32:57,851 --> 00:33:00,090 relationships between not only cyber 831 00:33:00,090 --> 00:33:02,146 come in the space common north com , 832 00:33:02,146 --> 00:33:04,090 but all the combatant commands are 833 00:33:04,090 --> 00:33:06,312 vitally important today with the global 834 00:33:06,312 --> 00:33:08,590 threat that we have each and every day . 835 00:33:08,590 --> 00:33:10,646 Look forward to that . If confirms . 836 00:33:10,646 --> 00:33:13,770 Thank you , Senator and cyber Mom . 837 00:33:13,890 --> 00:33:16,130 Space com relationship very , very 838 00:33:16,130 --> 00:33:18,352 important , critical to what we do each 839 00:33:18,352 --> 00:33:20,074 and every day . We both have a 840 00:33:20,074 --> 00:33:22,186 supporting and supported role in each 841 00:33:22,186 --> 00:33:24,408 other's operations . Were getting after 842 00:33:24,408 --> 00:33:26,241 that , if you will , in terms of 843 00:33:26,241 --> 00:33:28,297 integration , through putting one of 844 00:33:28,297 --> 00:33:30,408 our integrated planning elements from 845 00:33:30,408 --> 00:33:32,463 your space come into U . S Cyber com 846 00:33:32,463 --> 00:33:34,519 and then actually the reverse so U S 847 00:33:34,519 --> 00:33:36,297 cyber com putting it integrated 848 00:33:36,297 --> 00:33:38,463 planning element within us space . Com 849 00:33:38,463 --> 00:33:40,686 This will help us in our in our efforts 850 00:33:40,686 --> 00:33:42,741 to make sure that as we stand up U S 851 00:33:42,741 --> 00:33:44,797 Space Command that we are taking the 852 00:33:44,797 --> 00:33:46,574 supper , implementing the cyber 853 00:33:46,574 --> 00:33:48,686 protection cyber capabilities that we 854 00:33:48,686 --> 00:33:50,908 need to right from the very beginning . 855 00:33:50,908 --> 00:33:53,019 So if you will a clean sheet of paper 856 00:33:53,019 --> 00:33:55,019 as we put us space com together and 857 00:33:55,019 --> 00:33:56,908 we're going to be able to do that 858 00:33:56,908 --> 00:33:58,908 starting out of the ground floor by 859 00:33:58,908 --> 00:34:01,019 this relationship , it's critical and 860 00:34:01,019 --> 00:34:03,241 as a general , Van Herp said , critical 861 00:34:03,241 --> 00:34:03,210 to all the other combatant commands as 862 00:34:03,210 --> 00:34:05,154 well , but in particular for space 863 00:34:05,154 --> 00:34:07,210 common cyber come where you have two 864 00:34:07,210 --> 00:34:09,432 domains where you don't necessarily are 865 00:34:09,432 --> 00:34:11,488 able to see what's physically what's 866 00:34:11,488 --> 00:34:13,654 going on in each of those domains . So 867 00:34:13,654 --> 00:34:13,530 our ability to work together is 868 00:34:13,530 --> 00:34:16,220 incredible . I agree . And I I just 869 00:34:16,220 --> 00:34:18,331 think it used to be . We talked about 870 00:34:18,331 --> 00:34:20,553 air , land and sea , and now we clearly 871 00:34:20,553 --> 00:34:23,250 have to talk about space and cyberspace 872 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,220 and without all five of them protected 873 00:34:26,220 --> 00:34:28,590 and coordinated together were in 874 00:34:28,590 --> 00:34:31,650 trouble . And so I appreciate the fact 875 00:34:31,650 --> 00:34:34,230 that you , both of you recognize it and 876 00:34:34,230 --> 00:34:36,063 want to continue to improve it . 877 00:34:36,180 --> 00:34:38,440 General Dickinson When we talked last 878 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,496 week , we discussed the article that 879 00:34:40,530 --> 00:34:42,910 recently was written by retired Admiral 880 00:34:42,910 --> 00:34:44,632 Dennis Blair and former Deputy 881 00:34:44,632 --> 00:34:46,466 Secretary of Defense Robert Work 882 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,244 concerning the problem of 883 00:34:48,244 --> 00:34:50,578 overclassification of space information . 884 00:34:50,578 --> 00:34:52,578 They had argued rather persuasively 885 00:34:52,578 --> 00:34:54,744 that overclassification results in the 886 00:34:54,744 --> 00:34:57,320 duplication of space systems , the lack 887 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,376 of integration of space capabilities 888 00:34:59,376 --> 00:35:02,100 and training and ignorance of specific 889 00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:04,430 space threats among our operational 890 00:35:04,430 --> 00:35:06,940 forces . Can you discuss your thoughts 891 00:35:06,940 --> 00:35:09,162 on this issue with this committee ? And 892 00:35:09,162 --> 00:35:11,329 I recognize that we're not in a closed 893 00:35:11,329 --> 00:35:13,551 door session , but just in terms of the 894 00:35:13,551 --> 00:35:15,107 importance of reviewing the 895 00:35:15,107 --> 00:35:17,580 classifications with regard to space 896 00:35:18,590 --> 00:35:20,423 senator , right ? That is a very 897 00:35:20,423 --> 00:35:22,479 important process that we need to do 898 00:35:22,500 --> 00:35:25,070 routinely . And so in my previous job 899 00:35:25,070 --> 00:35:27,320 is a commander of U . S Army space of 900 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,098 Missile Defense Command . I saw 901 00:35:29,098 --> 00:35:31,660 firsthand how that overclassification , 902 00:35:31,660 --> 00:35:34,750 if you will , was actually 903 00:35:35,510 --> 00:35:37,454 making it more difficult for us to 904 00:35:37,454 --> 00:35:39,232 actually provide support to the 905 00:35:39,232 --> 00:35:41,399 warfighter . And so we have to look at 906 00:35:41,399 --> 00:35:43,454 that . And I read the same article . 907 00:35:43,454 --> 00:35:45,510 Senator and I would tell you that we 908 00:35:45,510 --> 00:35:47,820 have come a long ways in a short period 909 00:35:47,820 --> 00:35:49,820 of time in terms of that particular 910 00:35:49,820 --> 00:35:51,987 effort , we have looked at that in the 911 00:35:51,987 --> 00:35:53,960 d o d . In my last job , very 912 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,182 extensively . We've already seen in the 913 00:35:56,182 --> 00:35:58,800 US Army how that declassification , if 914 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,960 you will , of some of the some of the 915 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,350 assets that we have has added to not 916 00:36:03,350 --> 00:36:05,670 only more soldiers being it'll be 917 00:36:05,670 --> 00:36:07,337 trained and qualified on that 918 00:36:07,337 --> 00:36:09,114 capability , but providing that 919 00:36:09,114 --> 00:36:11,114 capability to the warfighter on the 920 00:36:11,114 --> 00:36:13,350 ground . Thank you . Thank you , Mr 921 00:36:13,350 --> 00:36:17,330 Chairman . Senator 922 00:36:17,330 --> 00:36:20,450 Manchin , please . Thank you , Mr 923 00:36:20,450 --> 00:36:22,339 Chairman . Thank you all for your 924 00:36:22,339 --> 00:36:24,394 service . Thank you for being here . 925 00:36:24,394 --> 00:36:26,228 Jenna Van Herck . We spoke about 926 00:36:26,228 --> 00:36:28,283 ensuring Northern Command's training 927 00:36:28,283 --> 00:36:30,394 operations or efficient as possible . 928 00:36:30,394 --> 00:36:32,394 Important part of that process will 929 00:36:32,394 --> 00:36:34,117 include smaller scale training 930 00:36:34,117 --> 00:36:36,228 exercises which allow for centralized 931 00:36:36,228 --> 00:36:38,394 planning , decentralize execution . We 932 00:36:38,394 --> 00:36:40,617 talked about this yesterday , so if you 933 00:36:40,617 --> 00:36:42,839 could share with us . Why ? I know that 934 00:36:42,839 --> 00:36:44,950 we are agreement on the issue . Could 935 00:36:44,950 --> 00:36:44,890 you share your opinions and how best to 936 00:36:44,890 --> 00:36:47,370 maximize the efficiency of training 937 00:36:47,370 --> 00:36:49,280 operations in these unique on 938 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,040 challenging times ? Thank you , Senator . 939 00:36:53,670 --> 00:36:55,503 I enjoyed the discussion . Yes , 940 00:36:55,503 --> 00:36:57,760 training opportunities are crucial . 941 00:36:57,770 --> 00:36:59,992 Not only the tier one large exercises , 942 00:37:00,330 --> 00:37:03,380 but exercises at all levels . Uh , 943 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,496 today we have to be as efficient and 944 00:37:05,496 --> 00:37:07,496 effective as possible with each and 945 00:37:07,496 --> 00:37:09,607 every dollar training dollar that are 946 00:37:09,607 --> 00:37:11,273 given . And so we should look 947 00:37:11,273 --> 00:37:13,440 continuously at training opportunities 948 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,440 that maximize the dollars that that 949 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,500 Congress gives the taxpayers expect . I 950 00:37:18,510 --> 00:37:20,510 look forward . Toa , if confirmed , 951 00:37:20,510 --> 00:37:22,621 working with you to take a look it of 952 00:37:22,621 --> 00:37:25,170 potential opportunities for efficiency 953 00:37:25,170 --> 00:37:27,337 and effectiveness in training national 954 00:37:27,337 --> 00:37:29,503 guards . Not the national guard of our 955 00:37:29,503 --> 00:37:31,614 fathers , is it ? I'm sorry , sir . I 956 00:37:31,614 --> 00:37:33,559 National Guard is not the National 957 00:37:33,559 --> 00:37:35,726 Guard that our fathers or grandfathers 958 00:37:35,726 --> 00:37:37,837 knew . Absolutely . I concur with you 959 00:37:37,837 --> 00:37:39,837 100% . Today's National Guard is in 960 00:37:39,837 --> 00:37:42,003 with us each and every day . And there 961 00:37:42,003 --> 00:37:41,530 has to be training opportunities for 962 00:37:41,530 --> 00:37:43,697 the National Guard . Thank you , sir . 963 00:37:43,697 --> 00:37:45,752 And John Dickinson . In the past few 964 00:37:45,752 --> 00:37:47,974 months , we've seen concerning signs of 965 00:37:47,974 --> 00:37:50,030 offensive capabilities intentions in 966 00:37:50,030 --> 00:37:51,919 space from our adversaries . This 967 00:37:51,919 --> 00:37:53,863 includes Russia's testing Anisette 968 00:37:53,863 --> 00:37:53,570 light weapons last week , Iran 969 00:37:53,570 --> 00:37:55,570 launching a military satellite into 970 00:37:55,570 --> 00:37:57,514 orbit in April and China launching 971 00:37:57,514 --> 00:37:59,480 three imaging satellites over the 972 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,810 course of three days last month . While 973 00:38:01,810 --> 00:38:04,032 these three examples vary in severity , 974 00:38:04,032 --> 00:38:06,143 there is no question that there signs 975 00:38:06,143 --> 00:38:08,254 of our adversary successful improving 976 00:38:08,254 --> 00:38:10,421 and investing in their space program . 977 00:38:10,421 --> 00:38:12,643 So what do your strategies for ensuring 978 00:38:12,643 --> 00:38:14,366 that space command responds to 979 00:38:14,366 --> 00:38:16,588 adversaries challenging US dominance in 980 00:38:16,588 --> 00:38:18,754 space while also avoiding perpetuating 981 00:38:18,754 --> 00:38:20,254 any further weaponizing of 982 00:38:20,254 --> 00:38:22,470 weaponization of space ? Senator , I 983 00:38:22,470 --> 00:38:24,526 think two parts to that that I would 984 00:38:24,526 --> 00:38:27,500 answer first is that we have Teoh hold 985 00:38:27,500 --> 00:38:29,620 our competitors accountable for their 986 00:38:29,620 --> 00:38:31,920 actions in space . And that has 987 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,740 actually been one of the major 988 00:38:33,750 --> 00:38:36,300 functions or achievements in my words . 989 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,080 In my opinion , the first year , like 990 00:38:39,090 --> 00:38:41,390 11 months of US space com being whose 991 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,567 existence is we have the professionals 992 00:38:43,567 --> 00:38:45,678 now that are looking at that each and 993 00:38:45,678 --> 00:38:47,844 every day , using our space domain ist 994 00:38:47,844 --> 00:38:49,733 domain awareness capabilities toe 995 00:38:49,733 --> 00:38:51,733 understand what our competitors are 996 00:38:51,733 --> 00:38:53,844 doing in space ? Do you have you have 997 00:38:53,844 --> 00:38:56,067 good community ? I'm sorry , sir . Good 998 00:38:56,067 --> 00:38:58,233 communications between our adversaries 999 00:38:58,233 --> 00:39:00,233 who are basically really going into 1000 00:39:00,233 --> 00:39:02,289 space and going at it with the gusto 1001 00:39:02,289 --> 00:39:04,456 that you have good communications that 1002 00:39:04,456 --> 00:39:06,511 let them know what's the protocol or 1003 00:39:06,511 --> 00:39:08,400 what we will accept what we won't 1004 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,511 accept . Oh , are we the gatekeeper ? 1005 00:39:10,511 --> 00:39:12,400 So , Senator , where that that is 1006 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,567 actually an area that we're working on 1007 00:39:14,567 --> 00:39:16,567 very hard right now is establishing 1008 00:39:16,567 --> 00:39:18,789 what we would call norms of behavior in 1009 00:39:18,789 --> 00:39:20,956 the space domain . And so we have seen 1010 00:39:20,956 --> 00:39:22,956 this in other domains , for example 1011 00:39:22,956 --> 00:39:25,178 than that maritime domain where it took 1012 00:39:25,178 --> 00:39:27,122 us some time to establish what the 1013 00:39:27,122 --> 00:39:29,178 norms of behavior are . What are the 1014 00:39:29,178 --> 00:39:31,289 acceptable practices in that domain ? 1015 00:39:31,289 --> 00:39:33,456 So we're working that , and by holding 1016 00:39:33,456 --> 00:39:35,456 our competitors accountable , we're 1017 00:39:35,456 --> 00:39:37,622 starting to begin to establish what we 1018 00:39:37,622 --> 00:39:39,733 would consider the norms of behaviour 1019 00:39:39,733 --> 00:39:41,844 or in space . That's to establish any 1020 00:39:41,844 --> 00:39:41,400 type of authority , has to be efficient 1021 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,550 superiority , don't you think ? Our 1022 00:39:43,550 --> 00:39:45,772 sulfurous and our superiority in spaces 1023 00:39:45,772 --> 00:39:47,717 Anyway , we're going to get any of 1024 00:39:47,717 --> 00:39:49,883 their attentions probably to work with 1025 00:39:49,883 --> 00:39:52,050 us or to allow us to set those norms . 1026 00:39:52,050 --> 00:39:54,290 Senator , I think from our deterrence 1027 00:39:54,290 --> 00:39:56,610 position , you know , we deter by a 1028 00:39:56,620 --> 00:39:58,842 position of strength . And as I said in 1029 00:39:58,842 --> 00:40:01,009 my opening statement , we are the best 1030 00:40:01,009 --> 00:40:03,440 in space . Thank you , sir . Gentlemen , 1031 00:40:03,450 --> 00:40:05,394 Van Kirk . One final and I had the 1032 00:40:05,394 --> 00:40:07,561 pleasure speaking with you yesterday , 1033 00:40:07,561 --> 00:40:09,894 and we touched upon the importance . Uh , 1034 00:40:09,894 --> 00:40:12,530 that's the wrong one . In the past few 1035 00:40:12,530 --> 00:40:14,752 months , we've seen concerning signs of 1036 00:40:14,752 --> 00:40:16,974 offensive capabilities and intentions . 1037 00:40:17,810 --> 00:40:21,610 Uh , I get that . I 1038 00:40:21,620 --> 00:40:25,530 get this right . Oh , here it 1039 00:40:25,530 --> 00:40:29,290 is . We're seeing steadily 1040 00:40:29,300 --> 00:40:31,522 increasing aggression from Russia and a 1041 00:40:31,522 --> 00:40:33,467 growing interest from China in the 1042 00:40:33,467 --> 00:40:35,700 region of the Arctic . I think we spoke 1043 00:40:35,700 --> 00:40:38,190 briefly about that yesterday . Could 1044 00:40:38,190 --> 00:40:40,412 you give an outline of some of your top 1045 00:40:40,412 --> 00:40:42,579 priorities to counter the conventional 1046 00:40:42,579 --> 00:40:44,634 and unconventional threats that were 1047 00:40:44,634 --> 00:40:46,746 likely to face from both countries in 1048 00:40:46,746 --> 00:40:48,801 that region ? Sure , Senator . Thank 1049 00:40:48,801 --> 00:40:51,210 you . The , uh , the changes in the 1050 00:40:51,210 --> 00:40:53,470 environment of loud , more access to 1051 00:40:53,470 --> 00:40:55,910 the Arctic with the vast amount of 1052 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,920 resource is certainly there will be 1053 00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,809 competition for those Resource is 1054 00:40:59,809 --> 00:41:03,430 whether they be , uh , oil or minerals . 1055 00:41:04,060 --> 00:41:07,390 Both Russia and China are very 1056 00:41:07,390 --> 00:41:09,612 interested in the Arctic . With regards 1057 00:41:09,612 --> 00:41:12,940 to what the North com perspective would 1058 00:41:12,940 --> 00:41:15,051 be , if confirmed is persistence . We 1059 00:41:15,051 --> 00:41:17,162 need persistence and domain awareness 1060 00:41:17,162 --> 00:41:19,107 in the Arctic to ensure that we're 1061 00:41:19,107 --> 00:41:21,320 aware and able to detect , monitor , 1062 00:41:21,450 --> 00:41:24,640 and if needed deter . Can you speak 1063 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,862 about the partnership that we see going 1064 00:41:26,862 --> 00:41:28,529 on between China and Russia ? 1065 00:41:28,529 --> 00:41:30,680 Partnerships in the Arctic and our 1066 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,960 allies is concerned as we are about 1067 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,690 deterring that Senator , I'm not aware 1068 00:41:35,690 --> 00:41:38,630 of specific partnership with China and 1069 00:41:38,630 --> 00:41:41,680 Russia in the Arctic . I assure you 1070 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,513 that our allies and partners are 1071 00:41:43,513 --> 00:41:45,680 concerned about China's activities and 1072 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,940 Russia's activities in the Arctic . I 1073 00:41:48,940 --> 00:41:50,940 look forward to talking to you more 1074 00:41:50,940 --> 00:41:53,107 about that . We just did a trip in the 1075 00:41:53,107 --> 00:41:55,162 already when we was very interesting 1076 00:41:55,162 --> 00:41:55,060 and hearing from the Arctic nations , 1077 00:41:55,510 --> 00:41:57,732 uh , up their their concerns . And what 1078 00:41:57,732 --> 00:42:00,066 activities ? Air seeing now . Yes , sir . 1079 00:42:00,500 --> 00:42:02,333 Thank you , sir . Thank you , Mr 1080 00:42:02,333 --> 00:42:04,389 Chairman . Thank you . Uh , with the 1081 00:42:04,540 --> 00:42:06,596 going back and forth and voting with 1082 00:42:06,596 --> 00:42:08,950 the two votes , I did my opening 1083 00:42:08,950 --> 00:42:11,340 statements , but I didn't . I had two 1084 00:42:11,340 --> 00:42:13,284 questions . I was going to ask the 1085 00:42:13,284 --> 00:42:15,340 beginning . Now , if they've already 1086 00:42:15,340 --> 00:42:17,562 been asked while I was out voting , you 1087 00:42:17,562 --> 00:42:20,460 can you can just skip that over And 1088 00:42:20,460 --> 00:42:22,460 what that would be . First of all , 1089 00:42:22,460 --> 00:42:25,880 General Van Herck , the , uh , from the 1090 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,936 opening statement you mentioned your 1091 00:42:27,936 --> 00:42:29,769 support for the national defense 1092 00:42:29,769 --> 00:42:31,824 strategy . That's this document here 1093 00:42:31,824 --> 00:42:34,180 that we all are adhering to and the 1094 00:42:34,180 --> 00:42:36,236 defense of our homeland being number 1095 00:42:36,236 --> 00:42:38,180 one priority , also mentioned that 1096 00:42:38,180 --> 00:42:40,990 threats to the homeland are here now . 1097 00:42:41,050 --> 00:42:43,780 So can you expand a bit on the 1098 00:42:43,780 --> 00:42:46,270 strategic environment that you would 1099 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,440 expect your face when you're confirmed 1100 00:42:49,450 --> 00:42:52,840 is north con Where have you already 1101 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,190 respond ? And to that question , 1102 00:42:55,950 --> 00:42:57,894 Senator , I have not . All right , 1103 00:42:57,894 --> 00:43:01,570 you're If confirmed , I would 1104 00:43:01,570 --> 00:43:04,290 expect a very dynamic environment over 1105 00:43:04,580 --> 00:43:07,590 32 years of service . I don't think 1106 00:43:07,590 --> 00:43:11,000 I've ever seen a strategic and dynamic 1107 00:43:11,210 --> 00:43:13,600 of a national security challenge that 1108 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,060 we have today . Over the last three 1109 00:43:16,060 --> 00:43:18,710 decades , our competitors and potential 1110 00:43:18,710 --> 00:43:20,970 adversaries have watched the United 1111 00:43:20,970 --> 00:43:23,640 States and our way of deterring our way 1112 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,430 of competing and are underway in 1113 00:43:26,430 --> 00:43:29,060 conflict . They have taken the 1114 00:43:29,070 --> 00:43:31,770 opportunity to adapt of that 1115 00:43:31,780 --> 00:43:34,900 environment by watching us specifically 1116 00:43:34,900 --> 00:43:37,250 China and Russia . Across all domains , 1117 00:43:37,390 --> 00:43:40,350 Russia develops strategic capabilities 1118 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,416 such as their submarines , which now 1119 00:43:42,510 --> 00:43:44,620 are a significant challenge for 1120 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,500 tracking and put posed the potential 1121 00:43:47,500 --> 00:43:49,722 for cruise missiles that can strike the 1122 00:43:49,722 --> 00:43:52,190 homeland . China will do the same in 1123 00:43:52,190 --> 00:43:54,134 the not too distant future as they 1124 00:43:54,134 --> 00:43:56,301 continue to develop their capabilities 1125 00:43:56,301 --> 00:43:58,550 and become mawr expeditionary . Russia 1126 00:43:58,550 --> 00:44:01,250 will continue with their cruise missile 1127 00:44:01,250 --> 00:44:03,306 development , which is a significant 1128 00:44:03,306 --> 00:44:05,472 challenge that we talked about earlier 1129 00:44:05,472 --> 00:44:09,030 as well DPRK with the nuclear 1130 00:44:09,030 --> 00:44:11,830 capability and the potential distracted 1131 00:44:11,830 --> 00:44:14,570 homeland . Iran , although not having a 1132 00:44:14,580 --> 00:44:16,469 nuclear capability at this time , 1133 00:44:16,469 --> 00:44:18,636 continues down a path developing space 1134 00:44:19,090 --> 00:44:21,201 capability which could translate into 1135 00:44:21,201 --> 00:44:23,534 an I C B M capability . And , of course , 1136 00:44:23,534 --> 00:44:25,757 their state state sponsors of terrorism 1137 00:44:26,010 --> 00:44:29,810 on their proxies will continue attacks 1138 00:44:29,810 --> 00:44:32,520 on the Western nations as well . A 1139 00:44:32,530 --> 00:44:35,580 couple that with the CEO and also 1140 00:44:35,580 --> 00:44:37,747 transnational criminal organizations . 1141 00:44:37,747 --> 00:44:40,150 I expect a full challenge if confirmed 1142 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,970 as the North Camp commander , sir very 1143 00:44:42,970 --> 00:44:45,710 good . And Joe Dickinson , 1144 00:44:46,980 --> 00:44:50,030 the National Defense Strategy . Great 1145 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:54,000 Power competition , in your view , does 1146 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,250 the 2018 nds accurately assess the 1147 00:44:57,250 --> 00:44:59,730 current strategic environment as it 1148 00:44:59,740 --> 00:45:03,560 pertains to the domain of space ? 1149 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,910 Senator ? I think it it does . And when 1150 00:45:07,910 --> 00:45:10,090 I look across the spectrum of 1151 00:45:10,090 --> 00:45:12,490 competitors that we're looking at today 1152 00:45:13,660 --> 00:45:15,660 in particular two of them China and 1153 00:45:15,660 --> 00:45:17,900 Russia are very active . But we've seen 1154 00:45:17,900 --> 00:45:19,630 that over the last few years , 1155 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,810 particularly with China in 2007 . But 1156 00:45:22,810 --> 00:45:24,770 their anti director sent an and I 1157 00:45:24,770 --> 00:45:26,826 satellite capability tests that they 1158 00:45:26,826 --> 00:45:29,200 have demonstrated their proliferation 1159 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,033 of jammers and directed energy . 1160 00:45:31,033 --> 00:45:34,210 Similarly , Russia has been in the news 1161 00:45:34,210 --> 00:45:36,321 the last couple of weeks , actually , 1162 00:45:36,321 --> 00:45:38,154 last few months in terms of what 1163 00:45:38,154 --> 00:45:40,210 they're doing on orbit in terms of a 1164 00:45:40,210 --> 00:45:42,530 dancing , their capabilities , North 1165 00:45:42,530 --> 00:45:45,470 Korea , and in particular 1166 00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:48,770 again , not not advancing quickly in 1167 00:45:48,770 --> 00:45:50,881 this space domain , but is definitely 1168 00:45:50,881 --> 00:45:53,030 using that in terms of developing 1169 00:45:53,030 --> 00:45:55,150 missile technology and likewise with 1170 00:45:55,150 --> 00:45:57,820 Iran , their ability to put satellites 1171 00:45:57,820 --> 00:46:00,600 into orbit , albeit not as capable , 1172 00:46:00,870 --> 00:46:03,280 still is still able to demonstrate that 1173 00:46:03,290 --> 00:46:07,200 missile technology to do that . So So , 1174 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,367 Senator , Chairman , I would just tell 1175 00:46:09,367 --> 00:46:11,422 you that they are active and I agree 1176 00:46:11,422 --> 00:46:13,910 with the the the NDS . Yes , thank you 1177 00:46:13,910 --> 00:46:16,820 very much , Senator . She being thank 1178 00:46:16,820 --> 00:46:18,900 you , Mr Chairman General . Then her 1179 00:46:18,900 --> 00:46:21,067 cause , you know , this administration 1180 00:46:21,067 --> 00:46:23,122 has attempted to divert billions and 1181 00:46:23,122 --> 00:46:25,011 funding for Department of Defense 1182 00:46:25,011 --> 00:46:27,011 counter drug activities , including 1183 00:46:27,011 --> 00:46:29,178 monies that have been dedicated to the 1184 00:46:29,178 --> 00:46:31,400 Joint Task Force North counternarcotics 1185 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,280 mixed mission for the construction of a 1186 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,970 border wall commander of Shaughnessy . 1187 00:46:36,970 --> 00:46:38,859 When he was before this committee 1188 00:46:38,859 --> 00:46:40,748 stated that he recommended to the 1189 00:46:40,748 --> 00:46:42,748 secretary that counter drug mission 1190 00:46:42,748 --> 00:46:45,000 funding not be diverted to border wall 1191 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,220 construction , would you agree that 1192 00:46:47,220 --> 00:46:49,442 this funding should remain dedicated to 1193 00:46:49,442 --> 00:46:51,360 the North . Com Counter Narcotics 1194 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:52,360 Mission . 1195 00:46:54,980 --> 00:46:58,630 Senator . Thank you . Uh , I would have 1196 00:46:58,630 --> 00:47:01,050 to go to the border and assess , if 1197 00:47:01,050 --> 00:47:04,180 confirmed , to make a rational 1198 00:47:04,530 --> 00:47:06,697 judgment . At this time in general , I 1199 00:47:06,697 --> 00:47:08,340 would support and say that 1200 00:47:08,340 --> 00:47:10,530 counternarcotics funding is crucial to 1201 00:47:10,530 --> 00:47:13,160 the mission . But again , I have not 1202 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:14,938 been to the border to make that 1203 00:47:14,938 --> 00:47:17,104 assessment . Well , can you comment on 1204 00:47:17,104 --> 00:47:19,271 any ways that you think that North Com 1205 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,353 counter Narcotics mission can be 1206 00:47:21,353 --> 00:47:23,530 improved or modernized or be more 1207 00:47:23,530 --> 00:47:25,419 effective than it currently is to 1208 00:47:25,419 --> 00:47:27,474 disrupt drug trafficking by national 1209 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,327 transnational criminal organizations ? 1210 00:47:31,330 --> 00:47:33,552 Senator , my understanding is the North 1211 00:47:33,552 --> 00:47:35,330 Commission is in support of the 1212 00:47:35,330 --> 00:47:37,219 Department of Homeland Security . 1213 00:47:37,219 --> 00:47:39,720 Homeland security has capability gaps 1214 00:47:39,720 --> 00:47:41,860 right now that North Commission is in 1215 00:47:41,860 --> 00:47:45,320 support through operational support , 1216 00:47:45,380 --> 00:47:47,430 infrastructure support , aviation 1217 00:47:47,430 --> 00:47:49,690 support and detection and monitoring . 1218 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,250 If confirmed , I commit to go to the 1219 00:47:52,250 --> 00:47:54,361 border quickly and make an assessment 1220 00:47:54,361 --> 00:47:56,306 of that mission and provide candid 1221 00:47:56,306 --> 00:47:58,250 Nona's feedback when appropriate . 1222 00:47:58,250 --> 00:48:01,330 Thank you . I appreciate that . Um , as 1223 00:48:01,330 --> 00:48:03,497 you know , when this has been referred 1224 00:48:03,497 --> 00:48:06,660 to obviously north com 1225 00:48:06,670 --> 00:48:09,910 includes the Arctic and can you speak 1226 00:48:09,910 --> 00:48:12,590 to your plans to continue the research 1227 00:48:12,590 --> 00:48:14,701 that's been undertaken in engineering 1228 00:48:14,701 --> 00:48:16,590 new technologies for cold weather 1229 00:48:16,590 --> 00:48:18,646 adaptability . You may know that the 1230 00:48:18,646 --> 00:48:21,030 cold regions Lab , the Army's Cold 1231 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,120 Regions Lab , is in Hanover , New 1232 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,130 Hampshire , and it provides a lot of 1233 00:48:26,130 --> 00:48:29,510 research and , um , is 1234 00:48:30,470 --> 00:48:32,940 capabilities that the Army continues . 1235 00:48:32,940 --> 00:48:35,310 And as we're looking at a situation 1236 00:48:35,310 --> 00:48:39,150 where we really haven't had a major 1237 00:48:39,510 --> 00:48:43,080 Northern conflict since the Korean 1238 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,340 War , how important it is to have that 1239 00:48:46,340 --> 00:48:48,507 kind of research and adaptability that 1240 00:48:48,507 --> 00:48:51,190 can be used by our services , 1241 00:48:52,970 --> 00:48:56,410 Senator , that is incredibly important . 1242 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,270 As I mentioned earlier , you know , 1243 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,336 persistence is what's crucial in the 1244 00:49:01,336 --> 00:49:03,447 Arctic and have persistent . You have 1245 00:49:03,447 --> 00:49:05,613 to be equipped and trained and capable 1246 00:49:05,613 --> 00:49:07,724 and have the equipment to do that . I 1247 00:49:07,724 --> 00:49:09,724 have confirmed I commit to you that 1248 00:49:09,724 --> 00:49:11,891 I'll continue to look in that . That's 1249 00:49:11,891 --> 00:49:13,891 really a service perspective on the 1250 00:49:13,891 --> 00:49:16,113 development . I worked closely with any 1251 00:49:16,113 --> 00:49:18,169 of the service chiefs to ensure that 1252 00:49:18,169 --> 00:49:20,336 the equipment for any forces Allocator 1253 00:49:20,336 --> 00:49:22,558 signed in North com have what they need 1254 00:49:22,558 --> 00:49:24,613 to compete and deter in the Arctic . 1255 00:49:24,613 --> 00:49:26,613 Well , thank you . We hope that you 1256 00:49:26,613 --> 00:49:28,502 will also come and visit the Cold 1257 00:49:28,502 --> 00:49:30,669 Regions Lab in Hanover and see exactly 1258 00:49:30,669 --> 00:49:32,780 what their capabilities are . I think 1259 00:49:32,780 --> 00:49:34,947 you'll find the research they do there 1260 00:49:34,947 --> 00:49:36,836 is gonna be of great importance , 1261 00:49:36,910 --> 00:49:39,132 Senator , if confirmed , I look forward 1262 00:49:39,132 --> 00:49:41,466 to that . Thank you . General Dickinson , 1263 00:49:41,466 --> 00:49:43,850 can you talk about how you envision the 1264 00:49:43,860 --> 00:49:46,320 National Guard and Reserve ? As you 1265 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,870 think about , um , how we use 1266 00:49:49,870 --> 00:49:53,020 their skill sets in both space command 1267 00:49:53,020 --> 00:49:55,240 and maintaining our superiority in the 1268 00:49:55,240 --> 00:49:58,120 space domain . Senator , I think their 1269 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,280 reserve component in particular for 1270 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,750 space is incredibly important . My 1271 00:50:03,750 --> 00:50:06,030 experience in my last job is the U . S . 1272 00:50:06,030 --> 00:50:08,197 Army Space and Missile Defense Command 1273 00:50:08,510 --> 00:50:12,000 Commander was I was very impressed with 1274 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,250 the reserve component contributions to 1275 00:50:14,260 --> 00:50:16,930 the Army space mission , those same 1276 00:50:16,930 --> 00:50:19,152 professionals or supporting U . S Space 1277 00:50:19,152 --> 00:50:22,850 Command now And they are They're so 1278 00:50:22,850 --> 00:50:25,017 important our mission that we can't do 1279 00:50:25,017 --> 00:50:27,072 that every day unless we have them . 1280 00:50:27,072 --> 00:50:29,294 And I see that only getting stronger on 1281 00:50:29,294 --> 00:50:31,461 more of a part of our command is as we 1282 00:50:31,461 --> 00:50:33,683 continue to mature . I do know there is 1283 00:50:33,683 --> 00:50:35,739 some work going on in the department 1284 00:50:35,739 --> 00:50:37,961 now to look at what the future might be 1285 00:50:37,961 --> 00:50:40,072 for that . But what I can speak about 1286 00:50:40,072 --> 00:50:42,640 today is the fact that we have National 1287 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,807 Guardsmen and reservists both from the 1288 00:50:44,807 --> 00:50:46,918 Air Force and from the army right now 1289 00:50:46,918 --> 00:50:48,584 performing space missions and 1290 00:50:48,584 --> 00:50:50,529 supporting U . S . Space Command . 1291 00:50:50,529 --> 00:50:52,640 Thank you . I hope . I hope that will 1292 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,640 continue , and you will continue to 1293 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,862 evaluate how they can contribute to the 1294 00:50:56,862 --> 00:51:00,430 mission . Um , as I'm sure you're aware , 1295 00:51:00,690 --> 00:51:02,523 the number of our commercial and 1296 00:51:02,523 --> 00:51:04,250 military silent satellites are 1297 00:51:04,250 --> 00:51:07,360 proliferating , and the tracking of 1298 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,050 those objects has become increasingly 1299 00:51:10,050 --> 00:51:12,210 important . Right now , the Air Force 1300 00:51:12,220 --> 00:51:14,470 is playing this role at the federal 1301 00:51:14,470 --> 00:51:16,637 level . But as I'm sure you're aware , 1302 00:51:16,637 --> 00:51:18,859 there's discussion about moving some of 1303 00:51:18,859 --> 00:51:20,526 these responsibilities to the 1304 00:51:20,526 --> 00:51:24,080 Department of Commerce . As the ranking 1305 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,300 member of the Commerce , Justice and 1306 00:51:26,300 --> 00:51:29,500 Science Appropriations subcommittee , I , 1307 00:51:29,500 --> 00:51:31,380 along with Chairman Moran , have 1308 00:51:31,380 --> 00:51:33,860 requested additional information about 1309 00:51:34,750 --> 00:51:38,500 what moving this operation from D . O . 1310 00:51:38,500 --> 00:51:40,960 D . To the Department of Commerce would 1311 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,530 entail how many personnel what other 1312 00:51:43,530 --> 00:51:46,010 changes would be required . We haven't 1313 00:51:46,010 --> 00:51:48,530 yet received an answer to our request . 1314 00:51:48,530 --> 00:51:50,419 Even though it's been a number of 1315 00:51:50,419 --> 00:51:52,990 months . Can you talk about what 1316 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,056 concerns you might have about moving 1317 00:51:55,056 --> 00:51:57,340 those capabilities from D . O . D . To 1318 00:51:57,340 --> 00:51:59,451 the Department of Commerce , if any ? 1319 00:51:59,451 --> 00:52:01,618 Or do you think this is a great idea ? 1320 00:52:01,790 --> 00:52:04,520 A senator . So my opinion is that I 1321 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,050 think it is a good idea . I think it's 1322 00:52:07,050 --> 00:52:09,330 Ah uh , the future and where we need to 1323 00:52:09,330 --> 00:52:13,310 move . That is , as you mentioned , the 1324 00:52:13,310 --> 00:52:15,480 space domain is becoming much more 1325 00:52:15,820 --> 00:52:17,931 cluttered , populated , if you will , 1326 00:52:17,931 --> 00:52:20,750 with the proliferation of of satellites , 1327 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,590 technology and for end brief , for that 1328 00:52:23,590 --> 00:52:25,646 matter . And so I think , as we move 1329 00:52:25,646 --> 00:52:28,510 forward to in order to make sure that 1330 00:52:28,510 --> 00:52:30,677 we do it , the most efficient and safe 1331 00:52:30,677 --> 00:52:32,732 in the most safest manner is that we 1332 00:52:32,732 --> 00:52:34,621 should look towards that . And if 1333 00:52:34,621 --> 00:52:36,454 confirmed , I would look forward 1334 00:52:36,454 --> 00:52:38,677 working , working that particular issue 1335 00:52:38,677 --> 00:52:41,010 with with you and your committee . Well , 1336 00:52:41,010 --> 00:52:43,232 thank you . My time is up . But I think 1337 00:52:43,232 --> 00:52:45,232 we would like to get back to you on 1338 00:52:45,232 --> 00:52:47,177 what you think will be required in 1339 00:52:47,177 --> 00:52:49,343 order to do that successfully . Thanks 1340 00:52:49,343 --> 00:52:51,780 very much , Mr . Thank you , Mr 1341 00:52:51,780 --> 00:52:53,836 Chairman . And thank both of you for 1342 00:52:53,836 --> 00:52:56,058 being here . Thank you both as well for 1343 00:52:56,058 --> 00:52:58,336 a very interesting phone conversations . 1344 00:52:58,336 --> 00:53:00,336 Or I guess we met in person in your 1345 00:53:00,336 --> 00:53:02,336 cases and grateful for that . I was 1346 00:53:02,336 --> 00:53:04,850 encouraged by it quite honestly . And 1347 00:53:04,850 --> 00:53:07,017 so I probably have more questions than 1348 00:53:07,017 --> 00:53:09,017 time , but will submit the rest for 1349 00:53:09,017 --> 00:53:11,390 later . I wanted to follow up . General 1350 00:53:11,390 --> 00:53:13,540 been hurt with our discussion , but 1351 00:53:13,540 --> 00:53:15,762 over the horizon . Radar . As I think I 1352 00:53:15,762 --> 00:53:18,310 mentioned you , um , the lab in the Air 1353 00:53:18,310 --> 00:53:22,300 Force lab and and nor 1354 00:53:22,300 --> 00:53:25,330 anything did a North NORAD north Com 1355 00:53:25,340 --> 00:53:28,380 did a test in North Dakota Camp Grafton , 1356 00:53:28,380 --> 00:53:31,450 which is a national Guard , um , camp 1357 00:53:31,460 --> 00:53:35,460 and facility . And our our feedback 1358 00:53:35,460 --> 00:53:37,810 was that the results were far extended , 1359 00:53:37,810 --> 00:53:39,950 actually , far far exceeded the 1360 00:53:39,950 --> 00:53:42,172 expectations . And I just be interested 1361 00:53:42,172 --> 00:53:44,560 in your knowledge of over the horizon 1362 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,150 right now what you see coming , if 1363 00:53:47,150 --> 00:53:49,150 anything and how you think it might 1364 00:53:49,150 --> 00:53:52,370 play out . Sure , Senator , um , 1365 00:53:53,750 --> 00:53:56,440 anything that enhances our capability 1366 00:53:56,450 --> 00:53:58,900 for domain awareness is going to be 1367 00:53:58,900 --> 00:54:02,030 crucial specifically with regards to 1368 00:54:02,030 --> 00:54:04,086 ballistic missile and cruise missile 1369 00:54:04,086 --> 00:54:06,360 capabilities , a longer range , and to 1370 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,860 keep an eye on what may be going on 1371 00:54:09,110 --> 00:54:12,390 over the Arctic and beyond . Specific 1372 00:54:12,390 --> 00:54:15,470 to the test . I don't have the details . 1373 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,810 I'll get those from a Pharrell have 1374 00:54:17,810 --> 00:54:20,380 confirmed but specific . We're looking 1375 00:54:20,390 --> 00:54:23,610 for this further discrimination , a 1376 00:54:23,610 --> 00:54:25,800 suspicious , especially with ballistic 1377 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,856 missiles as they get more advanced , 1378 00:54:27,870 --> 00:54:31,050 and the technology with debris and 1379 00:54:31,050 --> 00:54:33,480 decoy kind of information would be 1380 00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,313 crucial , and any of those radar 1381 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,687 capabilities would help us with that . 1382 00:54:37,710 --> 00:54:39,821 It was around the top of vibrator May 1383 00:54:39,821 --> 00:54:41,988 by throwing out that both of you could 1384 00:54:41,988 --> 00:54:44,154 weigh in on , Um , we talked about the 1385 00:54:44,154 --> 00:54:46,266 radar station at Cavalier that is a a 1386 00:54:46,266 --> 00:54:49,850 space force station . Our and uh , 1387 00:54:50,420 --> 00:54:52,642 has been there since the 19 seventies . 1388 00:54:52,642 --> 00:54:55,730 It's it looks , it's age , but I'm 1389 00:54:55,730 --> 00:54:57,508 wondering about the data that's 1390 00:54:57,508 --> 00:54:59,786 collected there . Is it still relevant ? 1391 00:54:59,786 --> 00:55:02,008 And is there more that could be done in 1392 00:55:02,008 --> 00:55:04,174 terms of modernizing the space station 1393 00:55:04,174 --> 00:55:07,210 at Cavalier for awareness ? And we 1394 00:55:07,210 --> 00:55:09,460 could start with General Center that 1395 00:55:10,540 --> 00:55:12,373 the data that comes from that is 1396 00:55:12,373 --> 00:55:14,318 absolutely critical to our missile 1397 00:55:14,318 --> 00:55:16,207 warning architecture that we have 1398 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,900 throughout North America as well as the 1399 00:55:18,900 --> 00:55:22,130 rest of the world in terms of ah , 1400 00:55:22,140 --> 00:55:24,870 theme , age of the radar and those 1401 00:55:24,870 --> 00:55:28,770 types of things I can speak from from a 1402 00:55:28,770 --> 00:55:30,992 position of us space com have confirmed 1403 00:55:30,992 --> 00:55:33,159 that that I would take a look at those 1404 00:55:33,159 --> 00:55:35,326 capabilities and put the demand or the 1405 00:55:35,326 --> 00:55:38,120 requirements to the US Space Force on 1406 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,398 work with General Raymond on improving , 1407 00:55:40,398 --> 00:55:43,710 if that's what we need to dio . So that 1408 00:55:43,720 --> 00:55:46,190 leads to why wasn't planning to be the 1409 00:55:46,190 --> 00:55:48,023 follow up to that ? But it makes 1410 00:55:48,023 --> 00:55:50,910 perfect sense since we got that at 1411 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,330 Cavalier , and we're still waiting for 1412 00:55:53,340 --> 00:55:55,830 results . And to see just how specific 1413 00:55:55,830 --> 00:55:58,940 and how clear images could be from over 1414 00:55:58,940 --> 00:56:01,051 the horizon radar , the northern tier 1415 00:56:01,051 --> 00:56:03,107 becomes important . You would talk a 1416 00:56:03,107 --> 00:56:04,996 little bit about the Arctic , but 1417 00:56:04,996 --> 00:56:07,218 there's not a lot between Minnesota and 1418 00:56:07,218 --> 00:56:10,400 you know , Michigan and say Montana and 1419 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,622 accept North Dakota and some some other 1420 00:56:12,622 --> 00:56:15,060 important states . But what I'm sort of 1421 00:56:15,060 --> 00:56:17,282 wondering about it as relates to the to 1422 00:56:17,282 --> 00:56:19,171 the Arctic itself . And should an 1423 00:56:19,171 --> 00:56:21,680 attack come from over Saskatchewan or 1424 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,090 Manitoba , you know , Are we prepared 1425 00:56:25,090 --> 00:56:26,868 for that ? Do we have the right 1426 00:56:26,868 --> 00:56:29,034 equipment ? We have enough tankers and 1427 00:56:29,034 --> 00:56:31,820 bombers and response weapons . If 1428 00:56:31,820 --> 00:56:33,820 something like that should happen , 1429 00:56:34,310 --> 00:56:36,254 maybe General Van Herck , you'd be 1430 00:56:36,254 --> 00:56:38,660 logical , Senator . My understanding is 1431 00:56:38,660 --> 00:56:40,604 that the current ballistic missile 1432 00:56:40,604 --> 00:56:43,920 defense system is capable of defending 1433 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,920 against the intended threat that we 1434 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,780 have today with regards to ah , 1435 00:56:49,790 --> 00:56:52,520 bombers and additional threats . The 1436 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,710 cruise missile threat certainly is a 1437 00:56:54,720 --> 00:56:56,920 concern , and that would be a top 1438 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,087 priority if confirmed . For me and and 1439 00:56:59,087 --> 00:57:01,309 domain awareness , it goes back to your 1440 00:57:01,309 --> 00:57:03,476 radar question , having awareness Azaz 1441 00:57:04,190 --> 00:57:06,412 of what is coming over the rise in . So 1442 00:57:06,412 --> 00:57:08,246 if confirmed . I look forward to 1443 00:57:08,246 --> 00:57:10,357 partnering with you and the committee 1444 00:57:10,357 --> 00:57:12,301 to ensure we get after that threat 1445 00:57:12,301 --> 00:57:14,301 before my time runs out . I do want 1446 00:57:14,301 --> 00:57:16,190 associate myself with some of the 1447 00:57:16,190 --> 00:57:16,070 issues raised by Senator Shaheen with 1448 00:57:16,070 --> 00:57:18,126 regard to a garden , and I know that 1449 00:57:18,126 --> 00:57:20,181 there's a process for doing that . I 1450 00:57:20,181 --> 00:57:22,181 think a deliberative process , slow 1451 00:57:22,181 --> 00:57:24,403 process doesn't have to be done the way 1452 00:57:24,403 --> 00:57:26,570 it's always been done . Let's just say 1453 00:57:26,570 --> 00:57:26,410 that so with regard to space , I 1454 00:57:26,420 --> 00:57:28,750 appreciate that . The only other thing 1455 00:57:28,750 --> 00:57:31,040 I bring up that this point is , um , 1456 00:57:31,150 --> 00:57:33,261 with General Dickinson . When General 1457 00:57:33,261 --> 00:57:35,372 Raymond did visit Ground Force in the 1458 00:57:35,372 --> 00:57:37,483 University of North Dakota in January 1459 00:57:37,483 --> 00:57:39,706 just after being named chief , he did , 1460 00:57:39,706 --> 00:57:39,530 he told the University of North Dakota . 1461 00:57:39,530 --> 00:57:41,419 They'd be a great fit for a space 1462 00:57:41,419 --> 00:57:44,190 related U . A r C University affiliated 1463 00:57:44,190 --> 00:57:47,010 research centres . Since then , we know 1464 00:57:47,010 --> 00:57:49,121 that has changed from a consortium of 1465 00:57:49,121 --> 00:57:51,232 schools to a competition for a school 1466 00:57:51,232 --> 00:57:53,454 or a group of schools , and the process 1467 00:57:53,454 --> 00:57:55,232 has slowed down . So because we 1468 00:57:55,232 --> 00:57:57,510 understand it's going to Space command , 1469 00:57:57,510 --> 00:57:59,732 not for space force that would actually 1470 00:57:59,732 --> 00:58:01,954 run the York . So how do you envision a 1471 00:58:01,954 --> 00:58:03,899 Space York coming together , and I 1472 00:58:03,899 --> 00:58:05,954 certainly I asked that question also 1473 00:58:05,954 --> 00:58:07,954 with the , um the statement that we 1474 00:58:07,954 --> 00:58:09,732 sure hope that you India's very 1475 00:58:09,732 --> 00:58:11,732 seriously considered in a partner , 1476 00:58:11,810 --> 00:58:13,754 Senator , that is a program as the 1477 00:58:13,754 --> 00:58:15,810 deputy U . S . Space Command . Right 1478 00:58:15,810 --> 00:58:17,754 now , that is a program that we're 1479 00:58:17,754 --> 00:58:19,866 actively looking at right now . We we 1480 00:58:19,866 --> 00:58:21,866 understand the value , the absolute 1481 00:58:21,866 --> 00:58:23,921 value of having a you arc as part of 1482 00:58:23,921 --> 00:58:25,977 that . In my previous assignment , I 1483 00:58:25,977 --> 00:58:28,088 was a chief of staff at us Stratcom , 1484 00:58:28,088 --> 00:58:30,254 where we we leverage that you arc very 1485 00:58:30,254 --> 00:58:32,310 well within that combatant command . 1486 00:58:32,310 --> 00:58:34,477 And as we stand up U S Space Command , 1487 00:58:34,477 --> 00:58:36,477 we're looking at the best practices 1488 00:58:36,477 --> 00:58:38,532 right now across the other combatant 1489 00:58:38,532 --> 00:58:40,643 commands in the department to see how 1490 00:58:40,643 --> 00:58:42,643 best to stand that up , to meet the 1491 00:58:42,643 --> 00:58:44,532 needs that we're gonna have And I 1492 00:58:44,532 --> 00:58:46,643 envision over the next nine months or 1493 00:58:46,643 --> 00:58:48,754 so that will have a that that program 1494 00:58:48,754 --> 00:58:50,921 will come together in a formal way . I 1495 00:58:50,921 --> 00:58:52,921 appreciate that . I'm just close by 1496 00:58:52,921 --> 00:58:55,143 just again reminding you that way . Our 1497 00:58:55,143 --> 00:58:57,088 northern tier state with important 1498 00:58:57,088 --> 00:58:59,032 assets , academic and talent , and 1499 00:58:59,032 --> 00:59:01,143 others , as well as a well positioned 1500 00:59:01,143 --> 00:59:03,199 to both defend the Arctic and play a 1501 00:59:03,199 --> 00:59:05,421 role in space . And with that , I thank 1502 00:59:05,421 --> 00:59:07,643 you . Think you said a bloomin though . 1503 00:59:09,090 --> 00:59:11,201 Thanks , Mr Chairman . Thank you both 1504 00:59:11,201 --> 00:59:13,312 for your service and to your families 1505 00:59:13,312 --> 00:59:15,479 as well . And thank you for being here 1506 00:59:15,490 --> 00:59:18,270 today , Lieutenant General Ban hurt , 1507 00:59:18,890 --> 00:59:21,820 uh , at the time that you are 1508 00:59:21,820 --> 00:59:23,860 testifying here today , Attorney 1509 00:59:23,860 --> 00:59:26,170 general bars testifying before a house 1510 00:59:26,820 --> 00:59:29,100 committee , the Judiciary Committee on 1511 00:59:29,110 --> 00:59:32,410 the use off federal policing 1512 00:59:32,410 --> 00:59:36,070 forces against protesters 1513 00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,580 in Oregon and elsewhere in the country . 1514 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,030 The question of the use of military 1515 00:59:43,030 --> 00:59:45,197 force has also been raised . In fact , 1516 00:59:45,197 --> 00:59:47,930 the president has raised it as a 1517 00:59:47,940 --> 00:59:50,051 possibility . Would you agree with me 1518 00:59:50,051 --> 00:59:53,240 that the American military 1519 00:59:53,820 --> 00:59:57,630 should never be used to suppress First 1520 00:59:57,630 --> 00:59:59,074 Amendment free expression 1521 01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:05,080 center ? Uh , what I would say is the 1522 01:00:05,090 --> 01:00:06,868 American military should be the 1523 01:00:06,868 --> 01:00:09,830 absolute last resort to be utilized . 1524 01:00:10,110 --> 01:00:13,390 In any case , the first utilization 1525 01:00:13,390 --> 01:00:15,390 should occur from local authorities 1526 01:00:15,390 --> 01:00:17,668 than state and federal law enforcement . 1527 01:00:17,850 --> 01:00:20,340 But the Constitution of the law allows 1528 01:00:20,340 --> 01:00:22,950 for the use of force is if required . 1529 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,030 But it would be the absolute last 1530 01:00:25,030 --> 01:00:27,700 resort , but not to suppress First 1531 01:00:27,700 --> 01:00:30,000 Amendment rights . Because wouldn't you 1532 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,222 agree that would be an illegal order if 1533 01:00:32,222 --> 01:00:34,730 it were Ch'ti . Senator , I fully 1534 01:00:34,730 --> 01:00:38,600 support protests of the First Amendment 1535 01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,530 type . Exactly as you stated , there 1536 01:00:41,530 --> 01:00:45,230 should be freedom to your First 1537 01:00:45,230 --> 01:00:47,750 Amendment at any time . What concerns 1538 01:00:47,750 --> 01:00:51,560 me is the protests that turned 1539 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,560 violent on those concerned me 1540 01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,671 significantly . We can't have that in 1541 01:00:56,671 --> 01:00:59,360 the nation . We have to have abide by 1542 01:00:59,370 --> 01:01:02,150 laws . And so ah , last resort would be 1543 01:01:02,150 --> 01:01:04,670 the use of the military . And I agree 1544 01:01:04,670 --> 01:01:07,900 with you that violence 1545 01:01:08,510 --> 01:01:11,880 and law breaking that involves a threat 1546 01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:15,530 of physical injury is to be 1547 01:01:16,770 --> 01:01:20,640 deterred and to be prosecuted when 1548 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:24,600 it violates the law . But how would 1549 01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:28,420 you ? How would you decide whether 1550 01:01:28,430 --> 01:01:31,230 military force is , in fact , needed , 1551 01:01:32,110 --> 01:01:34,890 if ever , as a last resort to protect 1552 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,870 individual rights , as was done , for 1553 01:01:37,870 --> 01:01:41,860 example , in the South at the 1554 01:01:41,860 --> 01:01:45,180 time of desegregation , as has been 1555 01:01:45,180 --> 01:01:48,230 done elsewhere ? But 1556 01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,900 I have seven today 1557 01:01:53,210 --> 01:01:55,377 proposed legislation . It's called the 1558 01:01:55,377 --> 01:01:57,488 Civil Act that would essentially make 1559 01:01:57,488 --> 01:02:00,270 the president certify or report 1560 01:02:00,500 --> 01:02:04,330 explained to Congress why and 1561 01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:08,600 whether troops are necessary . Right 1562 01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,950 now , he can send troops abroad , and 1563 01:02:11,950 --> 01:02:14,670 he must report back to Congress under 1564 01:02:14,670 --> 01:02:17,580 the War Powers Act . He's accountable 1565 01:02:17,580 --> 01:02:19,802 to Congress specifically , by statute , 1566 01:02:19,802 --> 01:02:21,802 there's no such requirement . If he 1567 01:02:21,802 --> 01:02:23,636 used his American troops against 1568 01:02:23,636 --> 01:02:25,524 American citizens . How would you 1569 01:02:26,300 --> 01:02:28,510 decide by what criteria ? Whether 1570 01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:30,913 forces necessary . And would you 1571 01:02:30,913 --> 01:02:33,710 support legislation that would require 1572 01:02:33,710 --> 01:02:35,599 some accountability to Congress ? 1573 01:02:36,180 --> 01:02:38,410 Senator , my understanding is that if 1574 01:02:38,410 --> 01:02:40,632 confirmed as a commander of North Com , 1575 01:02:40,632 --> 01:02:44,500 it would not be my decision to make the 1576 01:02:44,500 --> 01:02:46,611 use of force decision that would come 1577 01:02:46,611 --> 01:02:48,778 from the president to the Secretary of 1578 01:02:48,778 --> 01:02:50,880 Defense as a direction . What I can 1579 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:54,290 assure you is , if if I felt I was 1580 01:02:54,290 --> 01:02:56,800 being given an illegal , immoral or 1581 01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:00,080 unethical order that I'm obligated to 1582 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,190 not follow that order with regards to 1583 01:03:03,190 --> 01:03:05,301 your second question about supporting 1584 01:03:05,301 --> 01:03:07,357 legislation , uh , I'm going to stay 1585 01:03:07,357 --> 01:03:09,920 out of the policy aspect of that . If 1586 01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,420 that law is enacted center , I will 1587 01:03:12,420 --> 01:03:16,320 support it 100% . And let 1588 01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,487 me ask you , finally , you're familiar 1589 01:03:18,487 --> 01:03:21,630 with what was done in Lafayette Park ? 1590 01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:25,290 Correct ? I am for those National Guard 1591 01:03:25,290 --> 01:03:28,180 troops within your , uh , purview , 1592 01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:31,951 Senator , are you talking about in my 1593 01:03:31,951 --> 01:03:33,840 current job or , if confirmed , a 1594 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:35,951 future job ? And the answer is really 1595 01:03:35,951 --> 01:03:37,896 neither those those National Guard 1596 01:03:37,896 --> 01:03:39,950 troops . But we're not Allocator 1597 01:03:39,950 --> 01:03:41,840 assigned to us North commas . My 1598 01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,120 understanding . What about the use of 1599 01:03:44,130 --> 01:03:47,320 Air Force or Air National Guard assets 1600 01:03:47,540 --> 01:03:49,596 potentially over organ . And I don't 1601 01:03:49,596 --> 01:03:51,596 know whether you've seen the report 1602 01:03:51,596 --> 01:03:53,151 that there was some form of 1603 01:03:53,151 --> 01:03:55,262 surveillance in these of an Air Force 1604 01:03:55,390 --> 01:03:58,080 Plain center . I'm aware of that report . 1605 01:03:58,620 --> 01:04:00,650 What I understood was it was a test 1606 01:04:00,650 --> 01:04:02,594 mission that the United States Air 1607 01:04:02,594 --> 01:04:04,830 Force had scheduled months in advance . 1608 01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,970 It happened to coincide and was noticed , 1609 01:04:07,970 --> 01:04:11,270 but there was no mission assignment to 1610 01:04:11,270 --> 01:04:13,603 support anything on the ground in order . 1611 01:04:13,990 --> 01:04:16,050 Let me just ask you , finally , will 1612 01:04:16,050 --> 01:04:19,130 you commit as the commander of North 1613 01:04:19,130 --> 01:04:22,110 com that you would report to us 1614 01:04:22,870 --> 01:04:26,080 if , as about use of any military force 1615 01:04:26,180 --> 01:04:29,120 involving American citizens , as we've 1616 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:33,020 been discussing to make 1617 01:04:33,020 --> 01:04:35,131 sure I understand your question , are 1618 01:04:35,131 --> 01:04:37,353 you talking about the proposal you have 1619 01:04:37,353 --> 01:04:39,520 to enact ? No . Let me let me rephrase 1620 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:41,742 it . I'm sorry . It was unclear . Would 1621 01:04:41,742 --> 01:04:45,470 you , uh , report to us about the use 1622 01:04:45,470 --> 01:04:48,170 of military force against American 1623 01:04:48,170 --> 01:04:51,210 citizens in any incident 1624 01:04:51,890 --> 01:04:54,660 after it occurred ? Senator , I'll 1625 01:04:54,660 --> 01:04:56,660 answer that in two parts . First if 1626 01:04:56,660 --> 01:04:59,270 directed and a lawful order to execute 1627 01:04:59,550 --> 01:05:01,550 with military force . I will follow 1628 01:05:01,550 --> 01:05:04,170 that . If this committee I would like 1629 01:05:04,170 --> 01:05:06,337 to discuss that . Absolutely . I would 1630 01:05:06,337 --> 01:05:08,830 come to discuss that . Thank you . 1631 01:05:08,990 --> 01:05:12,410 Thanks very much . Thank you , Senators . 1632 01:05:12,410 --> 01:05:14,710 Philip . Thank you , Mr Chairman . And , 1633 01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:16,720 gentlemen , congratulations on your 1634 01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,000 nominations . And thank you for your 1635 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,410 decades of service to our nation . 1636 01:05:21,900 --> 01:05:23,956 Gentlemen , Herrick , I wanna talk a 1637 01:05:23,956 --> 01:05:27,510 lot about your responsibility as the 1638 01:05:28,690 --> 01:05:31,670 it in this important position with 1639 01:05:31,670 --> 01:05:33,710 regard to your responsibilities 1640 01:05:34,500 --> 01:05:37,260 overseeing the Arctic . I've been in 1641 01:05:37,260 --> 01:05:39,880 the Senate 5.5 years . We've made very 1642 01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,820 significant progress on focusing on 1643 01:05:42,820 --> 01:05:44,987 this . Not because the Pentagon's been 1644 01:05:44,987 --> 01:05:46,820 focusing has been primarily this 1645 01:05:46,820 --> 01:05:49,110 committee bipartisan way . Um , you 1646 01:05:49,110 --> 01:05:51,460 know , we started the previous North 1647 01:05:51,460 --> 01:05:53,680 con commander when I was here . Wasn't 1648 01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:55,902 that focused on the article hall ? It's 1649 01:05:55,902 --> 01:05:57,791 got increasingly better . General 1650 01:05:57,791 --> 01:06:00,990 Shaughnessy has been fantastic . So can 1651 01:06:00,990 --> 01:06:03,810 you give me your sense of , um , you 1652 01:06:03,810 --> 01:06:06,170 know , the great power competition that 1653 01:06:06,170 --> 01:06:08,337 is occurring in the Arctic and what we 1654 01:06:08,337 --> 01:06:09,948 need to do , I think we're , 1655 01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:13,460 unfortunately , way behind . But the 1656 01:06:13,470 --> 01:06:15,581 Congress , the United States has been 1657 01:06:15,581 --> 01:06:17,692 really pressing this issue to get the 1658 01:06:17,692 --> 01:06:19,730 Pentagon toe wake up . And I think 1659 01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,447 Pentagon is finally waking up . I give 1660 01:06:22,447 --> 01:06:24,810 a lot of credit . General Shaughnessy . 1661 01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,070 Um , Secretary of the Air Force . You 1662 01:06:28,070 --> 01:06:30,237 may have seen Mr Chairman I would like 1663 01:06:30,237 --> 01:06:32,348 to submit this . For the record , the 1664 01:06:32,348 --> 01:06:34,514 new department of the Air Force Arctic 1665 01:06:34,514 --> 01:06:36,737 strategy came out last week is a really 1666 01:06:36,737 --> 01:06:39,510 good document again . 5.5 years of the 1667 01:06:39,510 --> 01:06:42,250 Obama administration Arctic strategy in 1668 01:06:42,250 --> 01:06:45,290 this hearing in this committee I 1669 01:06:45,300 --> 01:06:48,790 referred to as a joke because it was 13 1670 01:06:48,790 --> 01:06:51,030 pages , six of which were pictures . 1671 01:06:51,860 --> 01:06:54,082 Climate change is mentioned like six or 1672 01:06:54,082 --> 01:06:56,249 seven times . And Russia was mentioned 1673 01:06:56,249 --> 01:06:58,471 once in a footnote in China wasn't even 1674 01:06:58,471 --> 01:07:00,193 mentioned . So it's a changing 1675 01:07:00,193 --> 01:07:02,249 situation now . Can you give me your 1676 01:07:02,249 --> 01:07:04,360 views ? And then I'd like to ask some 1677 01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,360 specific issues with regard toe the 1678 01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,390 Arctic without objection that will be 1679 01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,758 made a part of the record this morning . 1680 01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,860 Thank you , Mr Chairman . Thank you , 1681 01:07:14,860 --> 01:07:17,980 Senator . Uh , I see tremendous value 1682 01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:21,620 in the the Arctic . Specifically 1683 01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:25,982 if confirmed , what I would focus on is 1684 01:07:25,982 --> 01:07:28,370 enabling persistence . And I'm 1685 01:07:28,370 --> 01:07:30,600 encouraged by the strategy strategy 1686 01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:32,544 that you talked about from the Air 1687 01:07:32,544 --> 01:07:34,711 Force . I have read it . I think it is 1688 01:07:34,711 --> 01:07:36,822 a great step in the right direction . 1689 01:07:36,822 --> 01:07:38,933 China and Russia , as you asked about 1690 01:07:38,933 --> 01:07:41,510 tremendous resource , is in the Arctic 1691 01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:45,250 Russia , specifically using the 1692 01:07:45,260 --> 01:07:47,750 militarization , taking approximately a 1693 01:07:47,750 --> 01:07:49,917 dozen or so bases any of the reopening 1694 01:07:49,917 --> 01:07:51,750 or opening to have significant 1695 01:07:51,750 --> 01:07:54,930 influence in the Arctic . China calls 1696 01:07:54,930 --> 01:07:57,800 himself a near Arctic nation , which I 1697 01:07:57,800 --> 01:07:59,856 find hard to believe , but they do . 1698 01:07:59,856 --> 01:08:01,633 But certainly they wanna have . 1699 01:08:01,633 --> 01:08:03,633 Persistence in the Arctic is well . 1700 01:08:03,633 --> 01:08:05,800 That demands persistence of the United 1701 01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,911 States as well in my mind , and to do 1702 01:08:07,911 --> 01:08:11,020 that would require some capabilities . 1703 01:08:11,030 --> 01:08:13,363 I understand that . Journal Shaughnessy , 1704 01:08:13,363 --> 01:08:15,474 North com have a requirement for fuel 1705 01:08:15,474 --> 01:08:17,474 north of Dutch Harbor that couldn't 1706 01:08:17,474 --> 01:08:19,586 enable some a distant some additional 1707 01:08:19,586 --> 01:08:21,308 capabilities for persistence . 1708 01:08:21,308 --> 01:08:23,363 Communications will be a significant 1709 01:08:23,363 --> 01:08:25,363 challenge . I understand That's the 1710 01:08:25,363 --> 01:08:27,141 number one priority for General 1711 01:08:27,141 --> 01:08:29,197 Shaughnessy . Right now we have , ah 1712 01:08:29,197 --> 01:08:31,308 third of that requirement in the nd a 1713 01:08:31,308 --> 01:08:33,363 this year . So we're making progress 1714 01:08:33,363 --> 01:08:35,720 there , too ? Yes , And so we sincerely 1715 01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:37,780 appreciate that , Senator , that is 1716 01:08:37,780 --> 01:08:40,450 crucial above northern In the northern 1717 01:08:40,450 --> 01:08:42,283 latitudes , communication allows 1718 01:08:42,830 --> 01:08:44,830 commanding control as well . And to 1719 01:08:44,830 --> 01:08:47,090 deter and defend , you have to be able 1720 01:08:47,090 --> 01:08:49,312 to command and control the forces . And 1721 01:08:49,312 --> 01:08:51,479 so you have to have the infrastructure 1722 01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:53,423 to support that . Let me ask about 1723 01:08:53,423 --> 01:08:55,423 infrastructure General , just again 1724 01:08:55,423 --> 01:08:57,390 this week . It hardly week goes by 1725 01:08:57,390 --> 01:09:00,990 without a new , uh , media . 1726 01:09:01,670 --> 01:09:05,350 Ah , an article or something in the 1727 01:09:05,350 --> 01:09:07,683 press about the Arctic . Pompeo says US . 1728 01:09:07,683 --> 01:09:10,000 Expand Arctic Roll to deter Russia and 1729 01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,111 China That was in The Washington Post 1730 01:09:12,111 --> 01:09:14,167 two days ago . Yesterday in The Wall 1731 01:09:14,167 --> 01:09:16,500 Street Journal . There's a huge article . 1732 01:09:16,500 --> 01:09:18,630 Huge China's move to buy Arctic 1733 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,460 Goldmine Draws fire in Canada as world 1734 01:09:21,460 --> 01:09:23,500 powers seek dominance in the Arctic 1735 01:09:23,500 --> 01:09:26,420 region . Opponents purchase Opponents 1736 01:09:26,420 --> 01:09:28,490 of purchase say blocking deal is in 1737 01:09:28,490 --> 01:09:30,546 Canadians National interest . You're 1738 01:09:30,546 --> 01:09:32,768 gonna be working closely with Canadians 1739 01:09:32,768 --> 01:09:34,601 as you mentioned in your opening 1740 01:09:34,601 --> 01:09:36,434 statement on this , and then the 1741 01:09:36,434 --> 01:09:38,970 president just a month ago put out from 1742 01:09:38,980 --> 01:09:42,030 him the memorandum on safeguarding US 1743 01:09:42,030 --> 01:09:44,086 national interests in the Arctic and 1744 01:09:44,086 --> 01:09:46,252 Antarctic reasons . I'd like to submit 1745 01:09:46,252 --> 01:09:48,586 this for the record , Mr Chairman , but , 1746 01:09:48,586 --> 01:09:51,780 um , what the president is 1747 01:09:51,780 --> 01:09:55,620 asking you , the secretary , defense 1748 01:09:55,620 --> 01:09:57,950 secretary , State secretary Homeland 1749 01:09:57,950 --> 01:10:00,030 Security is look at that issue of 1750 01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,530 infrastructure , his memo says . We 1751 01:10:02,530 --> 01:10:04,697 need more ice breakers , and we need a 1752 01:10:04,697 --> 01:10:08,020 presence of at least to 1753 01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:12,130 us basing locations for these 1754 01:10:12,130 --> 01:10:15,330 new icebreakers . Do you think it would 1755 01:10:15,330 --> 01:10:18,050 make sense to put one of those basing 1756 01:10:18,050 --> 01:10:20,420 locations in the part of America that 1757 01:10:20,420 --> 01:10:23,760 actually is the Arctic senator ? I do 1758 01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,093 think it makes sense . And if confirmed , 1759 01:10:26,093 --> 01:10:28,093 I continue to work with you in this 1760 01:10:28,093 --> 01:10:30,204 committee to ensure that we get after 1761 01:10:30,204 --> 01:10:32,260 that . Great . Thank you , General . 1762 01:10:32,260 --> 01:10:34,204 Thank you , Mr Chairman . It gives 1763 01:10:34,204 --> 01:10:38,160 Senator Hirono . I ask every 1764 01:10:38,170 --> 01:10:40,910 nominee on any of the committees on 1765 01:10:40,910 --> 01:10:43,132 which I sit the following to question . 1766 01:10:43,132 --> 01:10:45,354 So I'll ask you gentlemen the following 1767 01:10:45,354 --> 01:10:47,780 to push . Since you became a legal that 1768 01:10:47,780 --> 01:10:50,200 don't have you ever he unwanted request 1769 01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:52,530 for sexual favors or committed any 1770 01:10:52,530 --> 01:10:54,540 verbal or physical harassment or 1771 01:10:54,540 --> 01:10:57,470 assault of a sexual gauger . Start with 1772 01:10:57,470 --> 01:10:59,970 you , general . Better No , Senator 1773 01:11:01,790 --> 01:11:04,670 Dickinson , No Senator . Second 1774 01:11:04,670 --> 01:11:06,560 question . Have you ever faced 1775 01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:09,850 discipline or entered into a settlement 1776 01:11:09,860 --> 01:11:12,750 related to this son of carpal ? No , 1777 01:11:12,750 --> 01:11:15,870 Senator . No , Senator . 1778 01:11:16,630 --> 01:11:18,980 Thank you . You've been asked . This is 1779 01:11:18,980 --> 01:11:21,390 where General , then her keeping asked 1780 01:11:21,390 --> 01:11:23,557 a number of questions . And should you 1781 01:11:23,557 --> 01:11:26,150 be confirmed , um , to your foot to the 1782 01:11:26,150 --> 01:11:29,180 position con fermenter , uh , some 1783 01:11:29,180 --> 01:11:30,910 questions along the lines of 1784 01:11:31,550 --> 01:11:34,750 involvement in civilian protests . So 1785 01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:36,649 we in recent weeks , we have seen 1786 01:11:36,649 --> 01:11:38,800 disturbing levels of violence . He's 1787 01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:40,856 against American citizens exercising 1788 01:11:40,856 --> 01:11:44,530 their right to protest . Assuming 1789 01:11:44,530 --> 01:11:47,110 that you are confirmed . What kind of 1790 01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:50,110 chaining will the forces under your 1791 01:11:50,350 --> 01:11:52,880 Herm You get to deal with non violent 1792 01:11:52,890 --> 01:11:56,180 protesters if Air called up 1793 01:11:58,670 --> 01:12:01,220 Senator , if forces are called to be 1794 01:12:01,220 --> 01:12:03,940 utilized , they would get training on 1795 01:12:03,940 --> 01:12:07,040 the standing rules for the use of force 1796 01:12:07,330 --> 01:12:10,340 and any training that would involve 1797 01:12:10,350 --> 01:12:13,890 being in close proximity or with 1798 01:12:13,890 --> 01:12:17,290 civilians . So is there any kind of 1799 01:12:17,300 --> 01:12:19,830 training that you are are aware of that 1800 01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:22,760 deals with the civilian nonviolent 1801 01:12:22,770 --> 01:12:26,690 protesters such as G s killer Addition 1802 01:12:26,690 --> 01:12:28,912 training ? Do you think there should be 1803 01:12:28,912 --> 01:12:31,280 specialized training for forces that 1804 01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,280 are used to dealing in the military 1805 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:36,200 context when they are in a civilian 1806 01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:40,180 context ? Senator , I I do believe that 1807 01:12:40,180 --> 01:12:42,330 if anybody from the military is going 1808 01:12:42,330 --> 01:12:45,640 to be put into that situation , that we 1809 01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:47,696 a senior leaders owe them the proper 1810 01:12:47,696 --> 01:12:50,120 training . What I would tell you is if 1811 01:12:50,490 --> 01:12:52,590 I am confirmed and if put into that 1812 01:12:52,590 --> 01:12:55,540 situation , I will insure 100% that 1813 01:12:55,550 --> 01:12:57,890 anybody put into that situation will 1814 01:12:57,890 --> 01:13:00,390 have the proper training before they 1815 01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:04,270 are put in there . So it would seem 1816 01:13:04,270 --> 01:13:06,159 that you would be able to give me 1817 01:13:06,159 --> 01:13:08,090 expletive it that you will do 1818 01:13:08,090 --> 01:13:11,310 everything possible in your role as the 1819 01:13:11,310 --> 01:13:13,254 North Com commander to ensure that 1820 01:13:13,254 --> 01:13:16,140 forces under your purview do not , but 1821 01:13:16,300 --> 01:13:18,467 I like the rights of American citizens 1822 01:13:18,467 --> 01:13:20,520 when providing support to civilian 1823 01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:24,440 authorities . Senator , I commit to 1824 01:13:24,440 --> 01:13:26,630 you , have confirmed and put into that 1825 01:13:26,630 --> 01:13:29,600 position where forces are going to be 1826 01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:31,820 put in proximity to support either a 1827 01:13:31,820 --> 01:13:35,390 federal agency or via 1828 01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:37,910 on act where they're in charge , that 1829 01:13:37,910 --> 01:13:39,688 they will get the most training 1830 01:13:39,688 --> 01:13:41,854 possible before they get put into that 1831 01:13:41,854 --> 01:13:44,270 situation . And while you said that 1832 01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:46,710 made a decision will be made by the 1833 01:13:46,710 --> 01:13:48,877 president as a commander , I think you 1834 01:13:48,877 --> 01:13:51,810 have some responsibility to make your 1835 01:13:51,810 --> 01:13:53,921 own decisions . For example , General 1836 01:13:53,921 --> 01:13:56,470 Milley apologize for his presence had 1837 01:13:56,470 --> 01:14:00,130 left you square during the photo op of 1838 01:14:00,130 --> 01:14:02,186 the president . So he was exercising 1839 01:14:02,186 --> 01:14:04,074 his own judgment . And you may be 1840 01:14:04,074 --> 01:14:05,963 called upon to exercise their own 1841 01:14:05,963 --> 01:14:07,852 judgement too . I'm sure with the 1842 01:14:07,852 --> 01:14:10,019 commitment that you are making today , 1843 01:14:10,140 --> 01:14:12,630 you were asked about the importance of 1844 01:14:12,630 --> 01:14:16,020 the A M National Guard and 1845 01:14:16,350 --> 01:14:18,920 and provided support to escape the 1846 01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:20,920 space . Come . And just for General 1847 01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:24,230 Dickinson , uh , Jenna , show senator 1848 01:14:24,230 --> 01:14:26,063 shaking her , had asked you some 1849 01:14:26,063 --> 01:14:28,174 questions . And I just wanted to know 1850 01:14:28,174 --> 01:14:30,830 that this year it was announce of the 1851 01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,180 Boy Air National Guard has been 1852 01:14:33,180 --> 01:14:36,800 selected to have one of four national 1853 01:14:36,810 --> 01:14:40,140 offensive . Ah Skase controls Georgians 1854 01:14:40,140 --> 01:14:42,320 and understand that the white your 1855 01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:44,431 National Guard , is in the process of 1856 01:14:44,431 --> 01:14:46,770 establishing ready to 93rd stay 1857 01:14:46,770 --> 01:14:49,890 Central's SWAT based at the Pacific 1858 01:14:49,890 --> 01:14:52,030 Missile Range Facility on Kawai . So 1859 01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:54,431 thank you very much for acknowledging 1860 01:14:54,431 --> 01:14:58,100 the importance of their role in medium . 1861 01:14:58,820 --> 01:15:01,320 Please come or did so . That's not a 1862 01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:03,950 question . I do have a question for you 1863 01:15:03,950 --> 01:15:06,670 to General Dickinson . We know that 1864 01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:08,902 you're going to need a lot of qualified 1865 01:15:08,902 --> 01:15:12,290 people you need with the Sam 1866 01:15:12,290 --> 01:15:15,190 backgrounds . As we said upstairs space 1867 01:15:15,190 --> 01:15:17,134 time and given the competition for 1868 01:15:17,134 --> 01:15:20,330 talent across the Stem and Cyber 1869 01:15:20,330 --> 01:15:22,441 Communities Hall , will you work with 1870 01:15:22,441 --> 01:15:24,820 the military services to ensure that 1871 01:15:24,820 --> 01:15:26,900 speaks thumb ? Has the technical 1872 01:15:26,910 --> 01:15:29,130 experts needed for mission in BiH 1873 01:15:29,430 --> 01:15:31,880 speech to May ? And what will you do to 1874 01:15:31,890 --> 01:15:34,057 attract minorities , including women , 1875 01:15:34,057 --> 01:15:37,150 to service in sleaze ? Calm Senator , 1876 01:15:37,150 --> 01:15:39,317 That's it . That's the question , is , 1877 01:15:39,317 --> 01:15:41,594 is one of talent management is I think , 1878 01:15:41,594 --> 01:15:43,761 what you asked me and how are we going 1879 01:15:43,761 --> 01:15:45,817 to attract good talent from the stem 1880 01:15:45,817 --> 01:15:49,780 stem of stem curriculum into the United 1881 01:15:49,780 --> 01:15:52,560 States Space Command and my overall 1882 01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:54,671 assessment being the deputy for about 1883 01:15:54,671 --> 01:15:56,671 six or seven months now . And in my 1884 01:15:56,671 --> 01:15:58,671 former job , U . S . Army Space and 1885 01:15:58,671 --> 01:16:00,727 Missile Defense Command is we've got 1886 01:16:00,727 --> 01:16:02,671 tremendous interest from our young 1887 01:16:02,671 --> 01:16:04,671 population wanting to come and be a 1888 01:16:04,671 --> 01:16:06,838 part of the space enterprise , whether 1889 01:16:06,838 --> 01:16:09,060 it's a commercial civil or in this case 1890 01:16:09,060 --> 01:16:10,893 military . And so our ability to 1891 01:16:10,893 --> 01:16:13,730 attract young . I think we've got a lot 1892 01:16:13,730 --> 01:16:16,300 of people that want to come serve and a 1893 01:16:16,300 --> 01:16:18,467 lot of young adults that want to serve 1894 01:16:18,467 --> 01:16:21,040 their nation in this capacity . So I'm 1895 01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:23,207 encouraged by by the numbers of people 1896 01:16:23,207 --> 01:16:25,429 that are interested in doing that . And 1897 01:16:25,429 --> 01:16:27,318 I think we as a department and if 1898 01:16:27,318 --> 01:16:29,262 confirmed as the U . S . Space com 1899 01:16:29,262 --> 01:16:31,262 commander , is that we need to have 1900 01:16:31,262 --> 01:16:33,373 mechanisms in place that will attract 1901 01:16:33,373 --> 01:16:35,596 at young Town . In my last job , we had 1902 01:16:35,596 --> 01:16:37,910 a very robust scholarship program and 1903 01:16:37,910 --> 01:16:40,132 opportunity for internships out of some 1904 01:16:40,132 --> 01:16:42,410 of our universities across the country , 1905 01:16:42,410 --> 01:16:44,632 and I would look to expand that so that 1906 01:16:44,632 --> 01:16:46,632 we can maintain that that knowledge 1907 01:16:46,632 --> 01:16:48,521 base in that expertise within the 1908 01:16:48,521 --> 01:16:51,030 within the command . I hope that you 1909 01:16:51,030 --> 01:16:52,790 will make concerted efforts to 1910 01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:54,880 encourage minorities , which include 1911 01:16:54,890 --> 01:16:57,450 Emma Teoh , uh , 1912 01:16:58,630 --> 01:17:01,610 jobs based on , because there certainly 1913 01:17:01,610 --> 01:17:04,830 a lack of encouragement for minorities 1914 01:17:04,830 --> 01:17:06,886 and women and understand area . So I 1915 01:17:06,886 --> 01:17:09,250 hope we will have a focus of effort . 1916 01:17:09,250 --> 01:17:11,030 Teen age for student . 1917 01:17:11,930 --> 01:17:15,340 Thank you . So your modem , 1918 01:17:15,930 --> 01:17:18,680 Senator Cotton . Thank you , Mr 1919 01:17:18,710 --> 01:17:20,877 Chairman . Thank you , gentlemen , for 1920 01:17:20,877 --> 01:17:22,988 your parents . And congratulations on 1921 01:17:22,988 --> 01:17:25,210 your nomination , General . Then hurt . 1922 01:17:25,210 --> 01:17:27,321 I will speak about the nuclear threat 1923 01:17:27,321 --> 01:17:29,321 facing the American people are lead 1924 01:17:29,321 --> 01:17:31,432 negotiator for the new start treaty . 1925 01:17:31,432 --> 01:17:33,488 Marshall Billingslea has warned that 1926 01:17:33,488 --> 01:17:35,654 China is in the midst of what he calls 1927 01:17:35,654 --> 01:17:37,821 an alarming crash nuclear buildup . We 1928 01:17:37,821 --> 01:17:39,710 also have significant flaw in the 1929 01:17:39,710 --> 01:17:42,050 existing new start regime . And then it 1930 01:17:42,050 --> 01:17:44,440 does not capture Russia Significant 1931 01:17:44,440 --> 01:17:48,290 advantage in what are variously called 1932 01:17:48,530 --> 01:17:51,000 low yield , tactical or battlefield 1933 01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:52,944 nuclear weapons . I don't see much 1934 01:17:52,944 --> 01:17:54,990 difference between tactical and 1935 01:17:54,990 --> 01:17:57,212 strategic nuclear weapons . That's both 1936 01:17:57,212 --> 01:17:59,660 are devastating . As the Northern 1937 01:17:59,660 --> 01:18:01,980 Command commander , you will have the 1938 01:18:01,980 --> 01:18:04,202 Homeland Airspace defense mission . And 1939 01:18:04,202 --> 01:18:06,258 so , from a military standpoint , do 1940 01:18:06,258 --> 01:18:08,590 these two do these twin threats concern 1941 01:18:08,590 --> 01:18:11,460 you . Are you worried about the risk of 1942 01:18:11,470 --> 01:18:13,940 nuclear overmatch when Russia and 1943 01:18:13,940 --> 01:18:16,051 China's forces are combined to get to 1944 01:18:16,051 --> 01:18:17,051 the United States 1945 01:18:19,470 --> 01:18:23,430 Senator a specific ? I'm confident 1946 01:18:23,440 --> 01:18:25,662 and I've talked to Admiral Richard with 1947 01:18:25,662 --> 01:18:28,830 our deterrent capability today that we 1948 01:18:28,830 --> 01:18:31,670 can deter both China and Russia 1949 01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:35,660 with regards to ah toe the new start 1950 01:18:36,450 --> 01:18:40,430 specifically entering into a 1951 01:18:40,610 --> 01:18:42,670 treaty that would put us at a 1952 01:18:42,670 --> 01:18:44,930 disadvantage with one or the other . 1953 01:18:45,480 --> 01:18:47,730 That would have to be something that I 1954 01:18:47,730 --> 01:18:49,952 would have to really take a look at . I 1955 01:18:49,952 --> 01:18:52,174 would be concerned about that , Senator 1956 01:18:52,390 --> 01:18:54,557 General , I'm confident in our ability 1957 01:18:54,557 --> 01:18:56,779 to turn that threat today as well . But 1958 01:18:56,779 --> 01:18:58,880 what about in the next 5 to 10 year 1959 01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:00,900 period ? You concerned that what Mr 1960 01:19:00,900 --> 01:19:03,122 Billingsley refers to the crash nuclear 1961 01:19:03,122 --> 01:19:05,067 buildup in China could put us in a 1962 01:19:05,067 --> 01:19:07,233 position in the near future , where we 1963 01:19:07,233 --> 01:19:10,410 face a combined nuclear force of China 1964 01:19:10,410 --> 01:19:12,466 and Russia that is greater than ours 1965 01:19:12,466 --> 01:19:14,188 and therefore , that we cannot 1966 01:19:14,188 --> 01:19:17,520 effectively deter center ? 1967 01:19:18,020 --> 01:19:20,076 I'll , uh , I need to get smarter on 1968 01:19:20,076 --> 01:19:22,242 that , to be honest it . But right now 1969 01:19:22,242 --> 01:19:25,100 I understand that our deterrence has 1970 01:19:25,100 --> 01:19:28,010 the capability to deter both . Now , 1971 01:19:28,010 --> 01:19:30,121 with that being said , I am concerned 1972 01:19:30,121 --> 01:19:32,121 with what I see about China , their 1973 01:19:32,121 --> 01:19:34,010 rapid build up in their change of 1974 01:19:34,010 --> 01:19:36,121 strategy with their nuclear weapons . 1975 01:19:36,121 --> 01:19:38,288 If confirmed , I commit to you to work 1976 01:19:38,288 --> 01:19:38,040 with you in this committee and the 1977 01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:40,280 intelligence community to continue to 1978 01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:42,260 monitor that . If I ever felt that 1979 01:19:42,260 --> 01:19:44,371 there was over match , then I'm going 1980 01:19:44,371 --> 01:19:46,649 to speak a loud as anybody in the room , 1981 01:19:46,649 --> 01:19:48,704 sir . Thank you . Appreciate General 1982 01:19:48,940 --> 01:19:50,940 General Dickinson . Russia has just 1983 01:19:50,940 --> 01:19:52,607 announced that it will deploy 1984 01:19:52,607 --> 01:19:55,040 hypersonic nuclear strike weapons with 1985 01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,790 its navy . I know that counter hot 1986 01:19:57,800 --> 01:19:59,930 hypersonic air already a top priority 1987 01:19:59,930 --> 01:20:02,041 of the Department of Defense . Yet we 1988 01:20:02,041 --> 01:20:04,240 currently have only minimal capability 1989 01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:06,462 to detect these weapons throughout most 1990 01:20:06,462 --> 01:20:09,060 of their very short , like profile . Do 1991 01:20:09,060 --> 01:20:11,530 you believe a space based sensor layer 1992 01:20:11,540 --> 01:20:13,207 eyes one of the most critical 1993 01:20:13,207 --> 01:20:15,262 capabilities the department needs to 1994 01:20:15,262 --> 01:20:18,890 detect and track hyper Sonics ? Senator , 1995 01:20:18,890 --> 01:20:21,410 I in my opinion , yes . We need to have 1996 01:20:21,410 --> 01:20:24,660 a space based Ah , monsieur Morning kor 1997 01:20:24,670 --> 01:20:27,130 detection capability . That is 1998 01:20:27,130 --> 01:20:29,352 absolutely critical . Teoh , solve this 1999 01:20:29,352 --> 01:20:31,640 problem with hyper sonics . Our ability 2000 01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:34,890 to see that threat early in the in the 2001 01:20:34,900 --> 01:20:36,956 sequence or the in the kill chain of 2002 01:20:36,956 --> 01:20:38,900 that is absolutely critical to our 2003 01:20:38,900 --> 01:20:40,956 success in defeating it . So I would 2004 01:20:40,956 --> 01:20:43,110 look , if confirmed Teoh advocate for 2005 01:20:43,110 --> 01:20:45,166 that capability in terms of building 2006 01:20:45,166 --> 01:20:47,660 out a space based sensor layer to 2007 01:20:47,660 --> 01:20:49,771 believe that Congress is sufficiently 2008 01:20:49,771 --> 01:20:51,938 funding development of that capability 2009 01:20:51,938 --> 01:20:55,390 at present , Senator my understanding 2010 01:20:55,390 --> 01:20:57,612 is Ah , I believe it is at this point , 2011 01:21:00,410 --> 01:21:02,188 you testify in the future , and 2012 01:21:02,188 --> 01:21:04,243 senators imply that they're ready to 2013 01:21:04,243 --> 01:21:06,410 give you more money . You shall we say 2014 01:21:06,410 --> 01:21:05,820 that you take it if you could get it , 2015 01:21:06,610 --> 01:21:09,200 Okay . If confirmed , Senator , I would 2016 01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:12,960 advocate for that . All right . Thank 2017 01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,071 you again for your Parents Day branch 2018 01:21:15,071 --> 01:21:16,960 Relations on your nomination , Mr 2019 01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:18,793 Chairman , I will yield back the 2020 01:21:18,793 --> 01:21:20,627 balance of my time . Thank you , 2021 01:21:20,627 --> 01:21:22,860 Senator Kaine . Thank you , Mr Chair . 2022 01:21:23,050 --> 01:21:25,217 These witnesses , I think , are very , 2023 01:21:25,217 --> 01:21:27,272 very qualified for the positions for 2024 01:21:27,272 --> 01:21:29,328 which they've been nominated . And I 2025 01:21:29,328 --> 01:21:31,550 applaud you for your service . I have a 2026 01:21:31,550 --> 01:21:33,772 plea . That's really more of a plea for 2027 01:21:33,772 --> 01:21:33,530 the committee that I have a question 2028 01:21:33,530 --> 01:21:35,530 for each of you in the plea for the 2029 01:21:35,530 --> 01:21:37,641 committee is sort of a I'm just gonna 2030 01:21:37,641 --> 01:21:40,380 stated his heartfelt as I can . Um , I 2031 01:21:40,380 --> 01:21:42,658 believe that this committee did really , 2032 01:21:42,658 --> 01:21:44,491 really good work on the national 2033 01:21:44,491 --> 01:21:46,713 offense authorizing act , and it passed 2034 01:21:46,713 --> 01:21:48,658 by an 86 14 vote . And I think the 2035 01:21:48,658 --> 01:21:50,824 chair and ranking did superb work with 2036 01:21:50,824 --> 01:21:53,102 the staff and helping pull it together . 2037 01:21:53,102 --> 01:21:55,850 It contains everything . It's 1160 2038 01:21:55,850 --> 01:21:58,960 pages . It's troop pay raises in its 2039 01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:01,070 protection for military families and 2040 01:22:01,070 --> 01:22:04,200 its shipbuilding and ship repair and 2041 01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:07,390 its strategic advances on issues that 2042 01:22:07,390 --> 01:22:09,334 my colleague Senator Cotton raised 2043 01:22:09,334 --> 01:22:11,930 about wa way . It is a very complex 2044 01:22:11,930 --> 01:22:14,097 bill , and the chair and ranking did a 2045 01:22:14,097 --> 01:22:16,263 wonderful job with the committee . And 2046 01:22:16,263 --> 01:22:18,319 then they did a wonderful job on the 2047 01:22:18,319 --> 01:22:18,080 floor , and there were dozens and 2048 01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:20,490 dozens and dozens of amendments added 2049 01:22:20,490 --> 01:22:22,434 by not only arm services committee 2050 01:22:22,434 --> 01:22:24,490 members , but members who are not on 2051 01:22:24,490 --> 01:22:26,768 the committee . That's to their credit . 2052 01:22:26,768 --> 01:22:28,823 A similar bill passed the House with 2053 01:22:28,823 --> 01:22:30,712 over a 2/3 vote . I don't believe 2054 01:22:30,712 --> 01:22:32,823 everything I read in the newspaper or 2055 01:22:32,823 --> 01:22:34,823 tweets , but I was discouraged this 2056 01:22:34,823 --> 01:22:36,680 weekend when I read that because 2057 01:22:36,690 --> 01:22:39,150 President Trump does not like one port 2058 01:22:39,150 --> 01:22:41,420 part of the bill , a bill that 2059 01:22:41,430 --> 01:22:43,960 establishes a process for renaming 2060 01:22:43,970 --> 01:22:46,160 military bases currently named after 2061 01:22:46,170 --> 01:22:49,000 Confederates and three of those bases 2062 01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:51,160 air in Virginia . I voted for the 2063 01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:53,710 provision to establish the renaming 2064 01:22:53,710 --> 01:22:55,877 process . But because he does not like 2065 01:22:55,877 --> 01:22:57,932 one piece of the bill , there's some 2066 01:22:57,932 --> 01:23:00,480 consideration being given to either 2067 01:23:00,480 --> 01:23:02,480 removing that even though it was in 2068 01:23:02,480 --> 01:23:04,480 both sides , both the House and the 2069 01:23:04,480 --> 01:23:06,647 Senate's bills or delaying getting the 2070 01:23:06,647 --> 01:23:09,470 bill to him . For that reason , I just 2071 01:23:09,470 --> 01:23:13,400 want to plea that we not let base is 2072 01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:15,456 named for Confederate generals , and 2073 01:23:15,456 --> 01:23:17,456 the issue of those names become the 2074 01:23:17,456 --> 01:23:19,567 dominating important issue that would 2075 01:23:19,700 --> 01:23:21,870 bogged down a very good defense 2076 01:23:21,870 --> 01:23:23,950 authorizing pill for three reasons . 2077 01:23:23,950 --> 01:23:26,620 Number one . The priorities in the bill 2078 01:23:26,910 --> 01:23:30,030 pay raises , shipbuilding , our nuclear 2079 01:23:30,030 --> 01:23:32,610 deterrence are vastly vastly more 2080 01:23:32,610 --> 01:23:34,800 important in the Confederate naming 2081 01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:36,967 provision , regardless of how you feel 2082 01:23:36,967 --> 01:23:39,189 about the provision or how people voted 2083 01:23:39,189 --> 01:23:41,780 on it . Number two . This is the single 2084 01:23:41,780 --> 01:23:43,891 most important piece of legislation I 2085 01:23:43,891 --> 01:23:46,520 work on in a year in the Senate . And I 2086 01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:48,576 would venture to say that members of 2087 01:23:48,576 --> 01:23:50,631 the committee probably feel the same 2088 01:23:50,631 --> 01:23:52,742 way . And for a place like Virginia , 2089 01:23:52,742 --> 01:23:54,631 where I've got the Pentagon , the 2090 01:23:54,631 --> 01:23:56,464 largest concentration of sort of 2091 01:23:56,464 --> 01:23:58,520 military administrative power in the 2092 01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:00,631 world . Quantico , where every Marine 2093 01:24:00,631 --> 01:24:02,576 officer is trained . Norfolk , the 2094 01:24:02,576 --> 01:24:04,520 largest seat of naval power in the 2095 01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:06,853 world . This is the bill , the end days , 2096 01:24:06,853 --> 01:24:08,798 that bill , where I have my entire 2097 01:24:08,798 --> 01:24:10,909 communities asking me what's gonna be 2098 01:24:10,909 --> 01:24:10,810 for the pay raise . What do you don't ? 2099 01:24:10,810 --> 01:24:13,032 For military families , they are on the 2100 01:24:13,032 --> 01:24:15,088 edge of their seats every year about 2101 01:24:15,088 --> 01:24:16,977 this bill , and they want to know 2102 01:24:16,977 --> 01:24:19,254 what's in it . And then when it passes , 2103 01:24:19,254 --> 01:24:18,950 I put out a press release stating 2104 01:24:18,950 --> 01:24:20,950 what's in it , and then communities 2105 01:24:20,950 --> 01:24:23,820 start to plan around it . President 2106 01:24:23,820 --> 01:24:26,042 Trump tweeted out over the weekend that 2107 01:24:26,042 --> 01:24:28,042 he was assured that the Confederate 2108 01:24:28,042 --> 01:24:30,098 provision would somehow be removed . 2109 01:24:30,098 --> 01:24:32,209 That puts uncertainty in tow . All of 2110 01:24:32,209 --> 01:24:34,320 the things that I've mentioned people 2111 01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:36,431 in Virginia about this bill , I don't 2112 01:24:36,431 --> 01:24:38,653 think we should inject uncertainty over 2113 01:24:38,653 --> 01:24:40,764 the good priorities in this bill over 2114 01:24:40,764 --> 01:24:42,987 an issue that is more minor important . 2115 01:24:42,987 --> 01:24:45,209 Finally , the other reason that I would 2116 01:24:45,209 --> 01:24:47,431 just urge us not to let the Confederate 2117 01:24:47,431 --> 01:24:50,400 issue wag the dog in this case is this . 2118 01:24:50,410 --> 01:24:52,632 This committee is the only place in the 2119 01:24:52,632 --> 01:24:54,910 Senate work . I think we do this right . 2120 01:24:54,910 --> 01:24:57,021 I hold this committee up all the time 2121 01:24:57,021 --> 01:24:59,243 I've had to Republican chairman and one 2122 01:24:59,243 --> 01:25:01,354 Democratic chairman of my eight years 2123 01:25:01,354 --> 01:25:03,410 in the Senate . It's the one part of 2124 01:25:03,410 --> 01:25:05,577 the Senate that I actually think works 2125 01:25:05,577 --> 01:25:08,740 where the chairman and ranking are open 2126 01:25:08,740 --> 01:25:10,573 toe , letting every member offer 2127 01:25:10,573 --> 01:25:12,907 amendments and get him voted up or down , 2128 01:25:12,907 --> 01:25:14,962 and only when there are none left to 2129 01:25:14,962 --> 01:25:17,129 offer do we declare it done . And then 2130 01:25:17,129 --> 01:25:19,129 on the floor that share and ranking 2131 01:25:19,129 --> 01:25:21,240 work assiduously with members of both 2132 01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:21,110 parties to clear as many amendments as 2133 01:25:21,110 --> 01:25:23,560 possible . I hold this up on all my 2134 01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:25,671 other committees . Why can't we do it 2135 01:25:25,671 --> 01:25:27,838 this way ? Why can't we do it like the 2136 01:25:27,838 --> 01:25:29,949 Armed Services Committee does ? And I 2137 01:25:29,949 --> 01:25:32,810 would hate to see that in the very 2138 01:25:32,810 --> 01:25:35,200 predictable instance where we might see 2139 01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:37,422 an issue different than the president . 2140 01:25:37,422 --> 01:25:39,367 President Obama wanted to pull out 2141 01:25:39,367 --> 01:25:41,644 funding for the refueling of a carrier , 2142 01:25:41,644 --> 01:25:44,080 but we didn't let that stop us . We got 2143 01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:46,191 differently and we did it . And there 2144 01:25:46,191 --> 01:25:48,191 been things where we disagreed with 2145 01:25:48,191 --> 01:25:50,469 President Trump on . That's what we do . 2146 01:25:50,469 --> 01:25:52,524 But we shouldn't be playing Mother . 2147 01:25:52,524 --> 01:25:54,691 May I ? With the president , we should 2148 01:25:54,691 --> 01:25:56,802 do what we're gonna dio , and then we 2149 01:25:56,802 --> 01:25:58,858 should let the president do what the 2150 01:25:58,858 --> 01:25:58,430 president's going to do . But I don't 2151 01:25:58,430 --> 01:26:00,870 think we should let a minor issue 2152 01:26:00,870 --> 01:26:03,037 dominate and slowed out in this bill . 2153 01:26:03,037 --> 01:26:05,490 So that is my earnest plea of my 2154 01:26:05,490 --> 01:26:08,210 colleagues and of the Senate and of the 2155 01:26:08,210 --> 01:26:11,070 conferees . My question is this . Our 2156 01:26:11,070 --> 01:26:13,292 chair and ranking did a good job during 2157 01:26:13,292 --> 01:26:15,514 the month of April were quarantined and 2158 01:26:15,514 --> 01:26:17,848 keeping us informed about how the D . O . 2159 01:26:17,848 --> 01:26:19,903 D . Is dealing with the Corona virus 2160 01:26:19,903 --> 01:26:21,903 issue . We had a weekly call and we 2161 01:26:21,903 --> 01:26:24,014 were digging into it . But because of 2162 01:26:24,014 --> 01:26:23,770 the outbreak on the Roosevelt , a lot 2163 01:26:23,770 --> 01:26:25,714 of the discussion was about that . 2164 01:26:25,714 --> 01:26:27,770 Should you each be confirmed in your 2165 01:26:27,770 --> 01:26:29,992 positions , how will you deal with sort 2166 01:26:29,992 --> 01:26:32,214 of the Corona virus and trying to , you 2167 01:26:32,214 --> 01:26:33,937 know , keep your team safe and 2168 01:26:33,937 --> 01:26:36,180 operating at a high level of 2169 01:26:36,180 --> 01:26:39,290 effectiveness and efficiency ? Should 2170 01:26:39,290 --> 01:26:41,290 you be confirmed in your new role ? 2171 01:26:41,290 --> 01:26:43,401 Have you given that some thought , or 2172 01:26:43,401 --> 01:26:43,160 what experiences you have in your 2173 01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:45,327 current role that you bring to bear on 2174 01:26:45,327 --> 01:26:47,493 that issue ? Should you be confirmed , 2175 01:26:48,910 --> 01:26:51,021 Senator , Thank thank you very much , 2176 01:26:51,090 --> 01:26:53,312 Yes , I have given that some thought as 2177 01:26:53,312 --> 01:26:55,423 the director of the Joint Staff , and 2178 01:26:55,423 --> 01:26:57,646 if confirmed , North Com would continue 2179 01:26:57,646 --> 01:26:59,701 to think about that . The department 2180 01:26:59,701 --> 01:27:03,190 has put in a four tier process 2181 01:27:03,190 --> 01:27:06,390 for testing to ensure that the mission 2182 01:27:06,390 --> 01:27:08,820 continues . So Tier one nuclear forces , 2183 01:27:08,820 --> 01:27:11,460 for example , four tier process to 2184 01:27:11,470 --> 01:27:14,300 ensure that that folks Aer 2185 01:27:15,050 --> 01:27:18,990 tested and if positive , they 2186 01:27:18,990 --> 01:27:21,230 are quarantine accordingly . This is 2187 01:27:21,230 --> 01:27:23,452 all about continuing with the mission , 2188 01:27:23,452 --> 01:27:25,680 so Yes , Senator . I would continue 2189 01:27:25,690 --> 01:27:27,579 with that process if confirmed in 2190 01:27:27,579 --> 01:27:29,610 addition to that following the CDC 2191 01:27:29,610 --> 01:27:31,554 guidelines and the policies of the 2192 01:27:31,554 --> 01:27:33,554 department that are put in place to 2193 01:27:33,554 --> 01:27:35,777 keep the mission effective and keep the 2194 01:27:35,777 --> 01:27:38,250 force ready . If confirmed , I I I look 2195 01:27:38,250 --> 01:27:40,139 forward to partner with you , the 2196 01:27:40,139 --> 01:27:42,306 committee to ensure we can get through 2197 01:27:42,306 --> 01:27:44,472 this . Thank you , General Dickerson . 2198 01:27:44,472 --> 01:27:46,639 Senator , My current job is the deputy 2199 01:27:46,639 --> 01:27:48,639 U S . Space Command . We we've gone 2200 01:27:48,639 --> 01:27:50,750 through very , very detailed planning 2201 01:27:50,750 --> 01:27:52,972 to make sure that we have accounted for 2202 01:27:52,972 --> 01:27:54,972 the Corona virus in terms of making 2203 01:27:54,972 --> 01:27:57,139 sure that our space mission areas have 2204 01:27:57,139 --> 01:27:59,194 been protected from it . A Z you can 2205 01:27:59,194 --> 01:28:01,306 imagine , Senator , we've got many no 2206 01:28:01,306 --> 01:28:03,528 field missions within the command right 2207 01:28:03,528 --> 01:28:05,583 now that we're using and our ability 2208 01:28:05,583 --> 01:28:07,417 toe take the guidance that we've 2209 01:28:07,417 --> 01:28:09,194 received from d o D . Take that 2210 01:28:09,194 --> 01:28:11,028 imparted into and are planning . 2211 01:28:11,028 --> 01:28:12,972 Process is really we've had a good 2212 01:28:12,972 --> 01:28:15,139 success story to this date in terms of 2213 01:28:15,139 --> 01:28:14,960 making sure we preserve that space 2214 01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:16,904 capability for the nation . And if 2215 01:28:16,904 --> 01:28:19,071 confirmed , I will continue to do that 2216 01:28:19,071 --> 01:28:21,238 and work with the committee as well as 2217 01:28:21,238 --> 01:28:23,238 the department . Thank you both . I 2218 01:28:23,238 --> 01:28:23,040 look forward to supporting both your 2219 01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:24,040 nominations , 2220 01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:28,960 Senator Jones . 2221 01:28:30,330 --> 01:28:32,497 Thank you , Mr Chairman . On And thank 2222 01:28:32,497 --> 01:28:34,663 both of our witnesses for your service 2223 01:28:34,663 --> 01:28:36,441 and for your willingness not to 2224 01:28:36,441 --> 01:28:39,550 continue to serve . Let me first . I 2225 01:28:39,550 --> 01:28:42,020 want to strongly associate myself with 2226 01:28:42,020 --> 01:28:45,270 Senator Cain's comments about the nd a 2227 01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:47,790 and every provision in it , including 2228 01:28:47,790 --> 01:28:49,957 the removal of the Confederate names . 2229 01:28:49,957 --> 01:28:52,290 I think that is it is so important 2230 01:28:52,620 --> 01:28:55,230 right now . That and if if you know , 2231 01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:57,511 if the president wants to continue to 2232 01:28:57,511 --> 01:28:59,733 be on the wrong side of history on that 2233 01:28:59,733 --> 01:29:01,900 point and that's his prerogative . But 2234 01:29:01,900 --> 01:29:03,900 this committee , Aziz Well , as the 2235 01:29:03,900 --> 01:29:05,900 Senate of the United States and the 2236 01:29:05,900 --> 01:29:08,122 House of Representatives have decided , 2237 01:29:08,122 --> 01:29:07,860 they're going to be on the right side 2238 01:29:07,860 --> 01:29:10,160 of history on this . And I am hopeful 2239 01:29:10,300 --> 01:29:12,467 that we can get this across the finish 2240 01:29:12,467 --> 01:29:14,689 line and do all those great things that 2241 01:29:14,689 --> 01:29:16,689 we have set out to do when we first 2242 01:29:16,689 --> 01:29:18,744 started . Ah , consideration of that 2243 01:29:18,744 --> 01:29:20,800 bill . General Dickinson . Thank you 2244 01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:24,580 for shout out the roll tide Shout out 2245 01:29:24,590 --> 01:29:27,240 earlier today . Um and also I 2246 01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:29,462 appreciate the fact that your son , who 2247 01:29:29,462 --> 01:29:31,740 just graduated is going to be training . 2248 01:29:31,740 --> 01:29:33,851 If I helicopters , I'll tell you , my 2249 01:29:33,851 --> 01:29:36,073 son also just graduated , and right now 2250 01:29:36,073 --> 01:29:38,184 he's just kind of hovering around our 2251 01:29:38,184 --> 01:29:40,351 house , waiting to go to law school or 2252 01:29:40,351 --> 01:29:42,296 graduate school or something . But 2253 01:29:42,296 --> 01:29:44,407 thank you for that . I do want to ask 2254 01:29:44,407 --> 01:29:46,573 about your time in Huntsville . And as 2255 01:29:46,573 --> 01:29:48,796 you are well aware with Space Command , 2256 01:29:48,796 --> 01:29:50,560 uh , Huntsville was one of the 2257 01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:53,670 finalists to be this headquarters for 2258 01:29:53,670 --> 01:29:56,710 Space Command that got changed recently 2259 01:29:57,020 --> 01:29:59,710 on that process has been reopened . And 2260 01:29:59,710 --> 01:30:01,821 in a hearing last year , actually , a 2261 01:30:01,821 --> 01:30:04,043 couple of hearings have raised concerns 2262 01:30:04,043 --> 01:30:06,490 about that . I was pretty upset that 2263 01:30:06,500 --> 01:30:08,389 that had been reopened because it 2264 01:30:08,389 --> 01:30:10,350 seemed to me that there were some 2265 01:30:10,350 --> 01:30:12,628 presidential politics coming into play . 2266 01:30:12,660 --> 01:30:15,970 Secretary Esper . Secretary Barrett 2267 01:30:15,980 --> 01:30:18,240 assured me that was not the case , but 2268 01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:20,296 I still have my doubts . But the one 2269 01:30:20,296 --> 01:30:23,070 thing that Secretary Esper talked about 2270 01:30:23,460 --> 01:30:25,682 was the fact that no decision was going 2271 01:30:25,682 --> 01:30:27,738 to be made . So I have two questions 2272 01:30:27,738 --> 01:30:29,904 for you . A new question decision made 2273 01:30:29,904 --> 01:30:31,904 before the election . So I have two 2274 01:30:31,904 --> 01:30:34,127 questions . Did you talk a little bit ? 2275 01:30:34,127 --> 01:30:34,110 You've been in Hunt's full is the head 2276 01:30:34,110 --> 01:30:36,430 of the Army Space and Missile Defense 2277 01:30:36,430 --> 01:30:38,541 Command . Did you tell ? Talk to us a 2278 01:30:38,541 --> 01:30:40,490 little bit about the importance of 2279 01:30:40,490 --> 01:30:43,690 Hunt's full in the operations there to 2280 01:30:43,690 --> 01:30:45,412 our overall mission in space . 2281 01:30:48,290 --> 01:30:51,110 Senator , My personal experience from 2282 01:30:51,110 --> 01:30:53,277 being the commander in this Army space 2283 01:30:53,277 --> 01:30:55,110 missile against command was that 2284 01:30:55,110 --> 01:30:57,277 Huntsville is a great place to live in 2285 01:30:57,277 --> 01:30:59,760 a great place to work . And I would 2286 01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:02,470 tell you that my wife and I we enjoyed 2287 01:31:02,470 --> 01:31:04,748 of the community as well in Huntsville , 2288 01:31:04,748 --> 01:31:07,360 Alabama , and it does have , As you 2289 01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:10,150 know , Senator has a lot of , ah , a 2290 01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:12,271 lot of capabilities there in terms of 2291 01:31:12,271 --> 01:31:14,750 this face enterprise with NASA Marshall 2292 01:31:14,750 --> 01:31:16,806 Space Flight Center , those types of 2293 01:31:16,806 --> 01:31:18,917 activities along with Missile Defense 2294 01:31:18,917 --> 01:31:21,139 Agency . So there are some . There is a 2295 01:31:21,139 --> 01:31:23,250 lot of technical base , if you will . 2296 01:31:23,250 --> 01:31:25,361 That's ah indigenous , if you will in 2297 01:31:25,361 --> 01:31:27,694 Huntsville , Alabama . Well , thank you . 2298 01:31:27,694 --> 01:31:30,740 My next question about that is that if 2299 01:31:30,750 --> 01:31:32,639 you know , I know that the basing 2300 01:31:32,639 --> 01:31:34,694 decision is not going to be yours to 2301 01:31:34,694 --> 01:31:37,410 make . But if confirmed , a za next 2302 01:31:37,410 --> 01:31:40,240 commander of space com will you support 2303 01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:42,407 Secretary Esper in keeping his promise 2304 01:31:42,407 --> 01:31:44,880 about timing on And will you commit to 2305 01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:47,280 offer your best military advice about 2306 01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:49,640 the headquarters location based on the 2307 01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:51,480 needs of the command and not the 2308 01:31:51,480 --> 01:31:53,470 desires of political leaders . 2309 01:31:54,790 --> 01:31:58,320 Senator I support Secretary Esper and 2310 01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:01,250 his Ah , in his concept for the basing 2311 01:32:01,250 --> 01:32:03,270 decision that will be made . I feel 2312 01:32:03,270 --> 01:32:05,570 that it is , in my opinion , a fair , 2313 01:32:06,050 --> 01:32:08,570 transparent , holistic look that will 2314 01:32:08,570 --> 01:32:10,710 be done and is already underway . And 2315 01:32:10,710 --> 01:32:13,390 at the end of that , Senator , I I will 2316 01:32:13,390 --> 01:32:15,334 provide my best military advice if 2317 01:32:15,334 --> 01:32:17,223 asked for that opportunity to the 2318 01:32:17,223 --> 01:32:19,168 Secretary of Defense . Thank you , 2319 01:32:19,168 --> 01:32:21,810 General . General Ben Hurt real quick . 2320 01:32:21,810 --> 01:32:23,921 I know you and Senator Reid discussed 2321 01:32:23,921 --> 01:32:26,540 about the lessons for any pandemic that 2322 01:32:26,540 --> 01:32:28,870 may occur in the future . And I'm 2323 01:32:28,870 --> 01:32:30,926 assuming that we're also looking for 2324 01:32:30,926 --> 01:32:33,400 the military . It lessons learned . I'd 2325 01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:35,950 like to ask you real quick about the 2326 01:32:35,950 --> 01:32:37,950 two hospital ships that we have the 2327 01:32:37,950 --> 01:32:40,220 comfort on the mercy . I think that 2328 01:32:40,220 --> 01:32:44,090 they were launched in 1976 in converted 2329 01:32:44,090 --> 01:32:46,930 the hospital ships in 86 . Would you 2330 01:32:46,930 --> 01:32:49,152 agree that those hospital ships provide 2331 01:32:49,152 --> 01:32:51,380 an important capability that we wanna 2332 01:32:51,380 --> 01:32:54,700 have in future pandemics ? And would 2333 01:32:54,700 --> 01:32:57,490 you support in trying to modernize 2334 01:32:57,710 --> 01:32:59,890 those assets and maybe increasing the 2335 01:32:59,890 --> 01:33:02,110 number of those type of assets ? 2336 01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:06,151 Senator , I agree that those hospital 2337 01:33:06,151 --> 01:33:08,207 ships are crucial to our warfighting 2338 01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:10,490 and any response and execution of any 2339 01:33:10,490 --> 01:33:13,090 oh , plan of specific to their 2340 01:33:13,090 --> 01:33:15,610 modernization , If that is a way 2341 01:33:15,610 --> 01:33:17,777 forward . Absolutely . I would support 2342 01:33:17,777 --> 01:33:20,130 that to ensure that we keep that 2343 01:33:20,130 --> 01:33:22,186 critical capability for the future . 2344 01:33:22,750 --> 01:33:24,972 Great . Thank you , General . Thank you 2345 01:33:24,972 --> 01:33:27,139 both for your service . Thank you , Mr 2346 01:33:27,139 --> 01:33:29,028 Chairman . Well , thank you . And 2347 01:33:29,028 --> 01:33:31,250 before going to our last member , which 2348 01:33:31,250 --> 01:33:34,330 would be Senator Duck Worth the last 2349 01:33:34,330 --> 01:33:37,920 two Democrats to speak . Both made 2350 01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:40,080 quite an issue out of that wouldn't 2351 01:33:40,230 --> 01:33:42,452 statement that the president has made . 2352 01:33:42,990 --> 01:33:45,360 And I'd like to clarify a little bit 2353 01:33:45,370 --> 01:33:47,370 because I happen to agree with that 2354 01:33:47,370 --> 01:33:50,710 statement that he made . It's ah , it's 2355 01:33:50,710 --> 01:33:54,030 an objective on an objection 2356 01:33:54,530 --> 01:33:57,380 to trying to rewrite the history of 2357 01:33:57,380 --> 01:34:00,790 America . Now , I was stationed many 2358 01:34:00,790 --> 01:34:03,650 years ago of a station and Fort Lee , 2359 01:34:03,650 --> 01:34:06,830 Virginia . So I know a little bit about 2360 01:34:06,830 --> 01:34:08,497 have a little bit of personal 2361 01:34:08,497 --> 01:34:10,663 background in that , And I think there 2362 01:34:10,663 --> 01:34:12,274 are a lot of people who just 2363 01:34:12,274 --> 01:34:15,220 legitimately I don't want to disregard 2364 01:34:15,480 --> 01:34:17,702 the history of this country as actually 2365 01:34:17,702 --> 01:34:19,760 happened . And that's a legitimate 2366 01:34:19,770 --> 01:34:22,480 concern . Senator Duck Worth . 2367 01:34:24,340 --> 01:34:26,396 Thank you , Mr Chairman . I do think 2368 01:34:26,396 --> 01:34:28,229 that it is important to remember 2369 01:34:28,229 --> 01:34:30,396 history soon . You should never repeat 2370 01:34:30,396 --> 01:34:32,507 itself , but a soldier I did not care 2371 01:34:32,507 --> 01:34:34,860 to be serving at Fort Rucker , Alabama . 2372 01:34:35,110 --> 01:34:37,670 I love what record I love . Don't the 2373 01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:40,600 enterprise was our area had some 2374 01:34:40,610 --> 01:34:42,832 wonderful times there , but I certainly 2375 01:34:42,832 --> 01:34:44,832 did not appreciate copy posted to a 2376 01:34:44,832 --> 01:34:46,943 base name for a trader of raised arms 2377 01:34:46,943 --> 01:34:48,999 against our nation . I'm general can 2378 01:34:48,999 --> 01:34:51,110 hurt Our country is facing a daunting 2379 01:34:51,110 --> 01:34:53,166 challenges . A definite pandemic has 2380 01:34:53,166 --> 01:34:55,410 killed more than 148,000 Americans in a 2381 01:34:55,410 --> 01:34:57,188 matter of months , and economic 2382 01:34:57,188 --> 01:34:59,243 recession is battering our country . 2383 01:34:59,243 --> 01:35:01,410 And members of the National Guard have 2384 01:35:01,410 --> 01:35:01,390 been ordered to intervene or their 2385 01:35:01,390 --> 01:35:03,501 fellow Americans exercise their First 2386 01:35:03,501 --> 01:35:05,723 Amendment rights , a situation that has 2387 01:35:05,723 --> 01:35:07,946 both troubled those concerned about the 2388 01:35:07,946 --> 01:35:10,057 state of civil military relations and 2389 01:35:10,057 --> 01:35:12,001 taste many of our parts . Man in a 2390 01:35:12,001 --> 01:35:14,057 difficult situation at the center of 2391 01:35:14,057 --> 01:35:16,168 public debate , the resiliency of our 2392 01:35:16,168 --> 01:35:18,168 country and our government is truly 2393 01:35:18,168 --> 01:35:20,279 being tested . The National Guard has 2394 01:35:20,279 --> 01:35:20,010 not been exempt from this , and you've 2395 01:35:20,020 --> 01:35:22,242 had this to special partially already . 2396 01:35:22,242 --> 01:35:23,980 Today , the guards domestic 2397 01:35:23,980 --> 01:35:25,702 contributions have been simply 2398 01:35:25,702 --> 01:35:27,860 staggering . The National Guard has 2399 01:35:27,870 --> 01:35:30,200 activated thousands of citizen soldiers 2400 01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:31,880 and airman domestically while 2401 01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:33,769 continuing to carry out regularly 2402 01:35:33,769 --> 01:35:36,370 scheduled missions and overseas . That 2403 01:35:36,370 --> 01:35:38,592 is why earlier this week , the national 2404 01:35:38,592 --> 01:35:40,537 reached a new peak of over a shoot 2405 01:35:40,537 --> 01:35:42,990 mentioned 120,000 personnel mobilized 2406 01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:45,080 for wide . In your own words , 2407 01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:47,136 gentlemen hurt . Can you tell me how 2408 01:35:47,136 --> 01:35:49,191 you see the National Guard's role in 2409 01:35:49,191 --> 01:35:51,413 the execution of North calms missions ? 2410 01:35:53,390 --> 01:35:55,334 Thank you , Senator . The National 2411 01:35:55,334 --> 01:35:57,334 Guard , as you point out , is doing 2412 01:35:57,334 --> 01:35:59,612 incredible things all around the globe , 2413 01:35:59,612 --> 01:36:01,557 and I think today it's it's over . 2414 01:36:01,557 --> 01:36:05,480 Almost 70,000 Guardsmen , not only in 2415 01:36:05,480 --> 01:36:08,070 the United States but abroad , but the 2416 01:36:08,070 --> 01:36:11,270 National Guard plays a crucial role in 2417 01:36:11,270 --> 01:36:13,500 the North . Com mission . Defense 2418 01:36:13,510 --> 01:36:16,330 support of civil authorities is crucial 2419 01:36:16,330 --> 01:36:19,850 across all 50 states and in territories 2420 01:36:19,850 --> 01:36:23,490 to ensure that linked and ready to go 2421 01:36:23,500 --> 01:36:27,030 that North Com routinely 2422 01:36:27,030 --> 01:36:29,470 trains and works with the National 2423 01:36:29,470 --> 01:36:31,570 Guard and the States . And so that 2424 01:36:31,580 --> 01:36:33,580 relationship is vitally important . 2425 01:36:33,580 --> 01:36:35,913 What I would commit to you if confirmed , 2426 01:36:35,913 --> 01:36:37,802 as I will continue to do that . I 2427 01:36:37,802 --> 01:36:39,913 worked closely with General Hawkinson 2428 01:36:39,913 --> 01:36:41,910 as he gets in the seat on all the 2429 01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:44,180 governors and the tags as well . That's 2430 01:36:44,180 --> 01:36:46,291 a crucial mission , man . Thank you . 2431 01:36:46,330 --> 01:36:48,330 Thank you . In mid May , during the 2432 01:36:48,330 --> 01:36:50,552 height of Corbett 19 response efforts . 2433 01:36:50,552 --> 01:36:52,386 I was alerted to friction points 2434 01:36:52,386 --> 01:36:54,386 between National Garden North . Com 2435 01:36:54,386 --> 01:36:56,386 There appears to be a lack of first 2436 01:36:56,386 --> 01:36:58,250 hand experience among North home 2437 01:36:58,250 --> 01:37:00,417 leadership concerning how the national 2438 01:37:00,417 --> 01:37:02,361 court response occurs at the state 2439 01:37:02,361 --> 01:37:04,560 level . In the past , the deputy 2440 01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:06,727 commander in North Com was required to 2441 01:37:06,727 --> 01:37:09,650 be a National Guard officer . Now that 2442 01:37:09,660 --> 01:37:11,438 position is open to any reserve 2443 01:37:11,438 --> 01:37:13,549 component officer , not necessarily a 2444 01:37:13,549 --> 01:37:16,050 guards . If a commander or deputy 2445 01:37:16,050 --> 01:37:18,272 commander North Calm does not have much 2446 01:37:18,272 --> 01:37:20,383 experience with the National Guard or 2447 01:37:20,383 --> 01:37:22,494 hold manned missions , it can be hard 2448 01:37:22,494 --> 01:37:24,328 to understand many of the guards 2449 01:37:24,328 --> 01:37:26,161 complexities . For example , the 2450 01:37:26,161 --> 01:37:28,161 National Guard ran into issues with 2451 01:37:28,161 --> 01:37:28,010 North , um , feeling to appoint dual 2452 01:37:28,010 --> 01:37:30,121 status commanders . Fortunately , the 2453 01:37:30,121 --> 01:37:32,399 guard was able to address these issues , 2454 01:37:32,399 --> 01:37:34,621 but not every situation will afford the 2455 01:37:34,621 --> 01:37:36,677 luxury of time . Gentlemen hurt have 2456 01:37:36,677 --> 01:37:38,899 confirmed . How do you plan to increase 2457 01:37:38,899 --> 01:37:40,732 the North com Senior leaderships 2458 01:37:40,732 --> 01:37:42,843 understanding of the National Guard's 2459 01:37:42,843 --> 01:37:44,454 complexities and its mission 2460 01:37:44,454 --> 01:37:46,621 requirements and , if confirmed , will 2461 01:37:46,621 --> 01:37:48,788 you commit to recording and publishing 2462 01:37:48,788 --> 01:37:50,732 North obsolescence ? Slur from its 2463 01:37:50,732 --> 01:37:52,954 response to Corbett 19 and civil unrest 2464 01:37:52,954 --> 01:37:54,621 to ensure North call does not 2465 01:37:54,621 --> 01:37:56,843 experienced similar difficulties in the 2466 01:37:56,843 --> 01:37:59,210 future . Thank you , Senator with with 2467 01:37:59,210 --> 01:38:01,800 their guards to the first question . If 2468 01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:03,800 confirmed , I would work closely to 2469 01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:05,911 ensure that all the senior leadership 2470 01:38:05,911 --> 01:38:08,160 gets a proper training on exposure to 2471 01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:10,160 the key National Guard leadership . 2472 01:38:10,660 --> 01:38:12,771 With regards to the lessons learned , 2473 01:38:12,771 --> 01:38:14,660 the department is going through a 2474 01:38:14,660 --> 01:38:16,716 process right now to capture lessons 2475 01:38:16,716 --> 01:38:18,938 learned from Cove It I commit to you in 2476 01:38:18,938 --> 01:38:21,160 this committee that we will share those 2477 01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:23,271 lessons learnt on if confirmed from a 2478 01:38:23,271 --> 01:38:25,271 north perspective , implement those 2479 01:38:25,271 --> 01:38:27,216 lessons learned it will be crucial 2480 01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:29,982 thank you General Arabic , and said , I 2481 01:38:29,982 --> 01:38:32,204 just have a minute left my questions on 2482 01:38:32,210 --> 01:38:34,200 the decision and timing on the 2483 01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:36,420 headquarters of locations have been 2484 01:38:36,420 --> 01:38:38,642 asked . I just wanted Teoh make you and 2485 01:38:38,642 --> 01:38:40,864 your family for your service , but also 2486 01:38:40,864 --> 01:38:42,920 to let your son if you could relay a 2487 01:38:42,920 --> 01:38:44,920 message to your son , tell him real 2488 01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:48,290 pilots fly air assault . Well , thank 2489 01:38:48,290 --> 01:38:50,623 you so much . I like that it's a tremor , 2490 01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:53,410 Thank you very much . And let me thank 2491 01:38:53,410 --> 01:38:56,710 your witnesses that are General Van 2492 01:38:56,710 --> 01:38:59,450 Herk and , uh , General Dickinson for 2493 01:38:59,450 --> 01:39:02,400 the time you given us in the frank ways 2494 01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:04,380 in which you have responded to the 2495 01:39:04,380 --> 01:39:07,090 questions and we'll be looking forward 2496 01:39:07,090 --> 01:39:09,290 to working with both each of you in 2497 01:39:09,290 --> 01:39:12,130 your new capacity , Thank you very much 2498 01:39:12,130 --> 01:39:13,070 and we're adjourned